Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jul 21, 2015 3:54pm
Lets hope he's not a corpse like the last former Mav we picked up.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 21, 2015 4:44pm
Bench filler.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 21, 2015 4:57pm
Yep, Shawn Marion 2.0sleeper;1741781 wrote:Bench filler.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jul 21, 2015 5:04pm
His shooting alone should make him a better fit than Marion ever was. But you guys are right, not moving the needle much.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 21, 2015 5:33pm
Someone to be on the floor the last few minutes went they're up by 20 on Detroit.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 21, 2015 5:44pm
How much can the needle even move when we were 2 games away from winning a title without Love or Kyrie?HighRoller74;1741786 wrote:His shooting alone should make him a better fit than Marion ever was. But you guys are right, not moving the needle much.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 21, 2015 6:21pm
Hopefully two mores games with everyone healthy and mo coming off the bench...lhslep134;1741792 wrote:How much can the needle even move when we were 2 games away from winning a title without Love or Kyrie?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 21, 2015 6:59pm
Rather that be a young guy with a hint of upside. He's a bum.friendfromlowry;1741789 wrote:Someone to be on the floor the last few minutes went they're up by 20 on Detroit.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 22, 2015 9:47am
Except a young guy couldn't accept the veteran's minimum...Commander of Awesome;1741800 wrote:Rather that be a young guy with a hint of upside. He's a bum.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 22, 2015 10:54am
True. A young guy can accept less.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741905 wrote:Except a young guy couldn't accept the veteran's minimum...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 22, 2015 11:18am
And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.sleeper;1741931 wrote:True. A young guy can accept less.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 22, 2015 11:19am
Agreed. Washed up.Commander of Awesome;1741939 wrote:And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 22, 2015 12:19pm
sleeper;1741931 wrote:True. A young guy can accept less.
Commander of Awesome;1741939 wrote:And probably 100x better than RJ, he's a washed bum and has been for several seasons. Even the spurs thought he was trash.
1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.sleeper;1741940 wrote:Agreed. Washed up.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.
Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 22, 2015 12:23pm
He's still shooting 43% from 3 point range so he's not total garbage. Would obviously like to see a younger guy but I'm starting to see that Cavs fans are getting spoiled/picky. Not much they can do with the limited financials they have.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.
Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 22, 2015 1:15pm
Only so many roster spots in the NBA. Tons of talented players wasting away in europe while guys like RJ who should have retired 4 season continue to get paychecks for shit they did a decade ago. Cavs FO just being lazy. Sign a guy who doens't have a chance to be in the NBA otherwise than sign retread trash like RJ. Would you rather have Delly, or Stephon Marbury? Give me delly every time at this point in their careers.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.
Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 22, 2015 1:15pm
Umm, we can actually do more/better with less in this situation.BR1986FB;1741951 wrote:He's still shooting 43% from 3 point range so he's not total garbage. Would obviously like to see a younger guy but I'm starting to see that Cavs fans are getting spoiled/picky. Not much they can do with the limited financials they have.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 22, 2015 1:17pm
This comment is funny as fuck.Commander of Awesome;1741962 wrote:Cavs FO just being lazy.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 22, 2015 1:52pm
We care because it was apparent last season that we don't really have a talented bench. Almost half our bench last year was basically fillers/practice trash(Haywood, Perkins, Marion, Miller) that couldn't even get on the court. Jefferson is close to being in the same category.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1741950 wrote:1) A young guy CAN accept less, but wouldn't. Richard has already gotten paid. Now he just wants to win. Not saying I wouldn't RATHER have a young guy, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely because young guys just wanna get paid.
2) Jefferson is a step up from Marion for the end of the bench.
3) Who cares? These are not impact players. They're practice fillers and trash time minutes.
Every acquisition doesn't have to be sexy. I don't understand why you guys think they should be?
We lose 3 of those 4 this year and replaced them with Mo Williams, RJ, and maybe one of the draft picks. Overall, it's not terrible but we could do better I think.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 22, 2015 1:54pm
I'm still hoping we find a decent SF to buy Lebron some minutes during the regular season.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 22, 2015 2:06pm
Don't forget Joe Harris.sleeper;1741979 wrote:
We lose 3 of those 4 this year and replaced them with Mo Williams, RJ, and maybe one of the draft picks..
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 22, 2015 2:08pm
Commander of Awesome;1741962 wrote: Tons of talented players wasting away in europe
Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 22, 2015 2:23pm
This.lhslep134;1741982 wrote:Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
Especially ones that would accept a minimum salary.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 22, 2015 2:43pm
I'm not an NBA exec, nor do I follow Russian/Spanish/etc... leagues. My whole point was there are players there that can contribute more to the Cavs than RJ can. He's a locker room guy who hasn't been productive in the NBA for several seasons. Its up the front office to find these guys bring them, etc...What's RJ's ceiling? Marion/Miller? I'd rather have a guy that can come in and contribute consistently.lhslep134;1741982 wrote:Name 5 talented players wasting away in Europe
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 22, 2015 2:44pm
What don't you get about this? Min salary is better than no salary, or Dleague salary. DERPDr. KnOiTaLL;1741985 wrote:This.
Especially ones that would accept a minimum salary.
There is someone in the dleague/Euro league that can contribute more than Jefferson can. NBA FO/Coaches JO to too many vets for no good reason. Same reason Perkins is still in the league.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 22, 2015 2:50pm
And there's none in Europe, or else they'd have been brought over. There are talented players in Europe to be sure. But none that are "wasting away" waiting for the first available NBA opportunity.Commander of Awesome;1741987 wrote: I'd rather have a guy that can come in and contribute consistently.
You're allowed to bitch and moan about signing RJ, but you haven't provided any realistic alternatives so it's just a bunch of noise.