DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 7, 2015 12:53pm
What a greedy dumbass. 80 million dollars is apparently not enough. I mean the mindset of these people is ridiculous.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 7, 2015 12:57pm
It's kind of petty. $80M is more than fair and I think that's slightly above what he would get on the free market. Maybe some team will pay more but that team won't be contending for championships.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1739301 wrote:You don't pay a rebounder a max contract. If he wants more he can go somewhere else. If Lebron doesn't like it, fuck him too. I doubt he'd actually leave, but if he did, he wouldn't have any support outside of his Lebron only fans.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 7, 2015 12:59pm
Absolutely. Cleveland will pay him more than any other contender will. Make him leave on his own.sleeper;1739310 wrote:It's kind of petty. $80M is more than fair and I think that's slightly above what he would get on the free market. Maybe some team will pay more but that team won't be contending for championships.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 7, 2015 1:01pm
I'm just saying, if Lebron is helping his boys get paid, the Cavs are handcuffed as far as bringing in supporting cast, and they DON'T win a championship? I think a lot of people will be pissed. It's all hypothetical, as they could win several, but if they don't win one?SportsAndLady;1739294 wrote:Take it easy. Slow down. This seems a bit extreme after RUMORS of Tristan Thompson wanting more on his contract.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 7, 2015 1:03pm
Regardless of the salaries, people will be pissed if Lebron doesn't win one. I think the cash is a moot point because do the fans honestly care if Gilbert loses a bunch of money? Also, these aren't "bad" signings; these are quality players and if they are bit overpaid it doesn't affect the fans.BR1986FB;1739313 wrote:I'm just saying, if Lebron is helping his boys get paid, the Cavs are handcuffed as far as bringing in supporting cast, and they DON'T win a championship? I think a lot of people will be pissed. It's all hypothetical, as they could win several, but if they don't win one?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 7, 2015 1:03pm
Which article did you get this from?BR1986FB;1739313 wrote:I'm just saying, if Lebron is helping his boys get paid, the Cavs are handcuffed as far as bringing in supporting cast, and they DON'T win a championship? I think a lot of people will be pissed. It's all hypothetical, as they could win several, but if they don't win one?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 7, 2015 1:06pm
With the cap, Gilbert isnt going to be losing money unless the team totally tanks and the arena is empty, and even with that I be he does ok with media deals.sleeper;1739314 wrote:Regardless of the salaries, people will be pissed if Lebron doesn't win one. I think the cash is a moot point because do the fans honestly care if Gilbert loses a bunch of money? Also, these aren't "bad" signings; these are quality players and if they are bit overpaid it doesn't affect the fans.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 7, 2015 1:08pm
I think we know the answer is sports talk radioDeyDurkie5;1739315 wrote:Which article did you get this from?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 7, 2015 1:16pm
Assuming we re-sign both TT and Lebron to their projected deals, the Cavs are going to well into the luxury tax for the next 5 years. There's also the repeat tax offender penalties that we will pay. Gilbert will no doubt lose money if you just account for the Cavs alone; although he owns the casino near there and might make out some additional profit if the Cavs win some championships.thavoice;1739316 wrote:With the cap, Gilbert isnt going to be losing money unless the team totally tanks and the arena is empty, and even with that I be he does ok with media deals.
Really hard to guess, but Gilbert won't exactly be rolling in profits like he could if he managed the cap better.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 7, 2015 1:31pm
I guess I just don't understand the point of you saying that. Of course if lebron never wins Cleveland a championship, he's going to take some heat. But does anyone actually believe he's going to win zero championships with this team?BR1986FB;1739313 wrote:I'm just saying, if Lebron is helping his boys get paid, the Cavs are handcuffed as far as bringing in supporting cast, and they DON'T win a championship? I think a lot of people will be pissed. It's all hypothetical, as they could win several, but if they don't win one?
And for all we know, lebron could have nothing to do with TT's contract talks.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2015 1:32pm
This post makes no sense at all.thavoice;1739316 wrote:With the cap, Gilbert isnt going to be losing money unless the team totally tanks and the arena is empty, and even with that I be he does ok with media deals.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 7, 2015 1:36pm
It's thavoice, laley. We have already discussed this.Laley23;1739333 wrote:This post makes no sense at all.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2015 1:38pm
Lol'dDeyDurkie5;1739341 wrote:It's thavoice, laley. We have already discussed this.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 7, 2015 1:43pm
Not that hard to understand.Laley23;1739333 wrote:This post makes no sense at all.
Sleeper asked if people would care if Gilbert loses money.
I simply replied that no he wouldnt lose money on the cavs. Dont tell me you are joining with the two stooges.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 7, 2015 1:46pm
On paper, yeah...it looks like they should win one, if not multiple, rings but they have two players (Love & KI) who aren't exactly the picture of health, year in and year out, so nothing's a given.SportsAndLady;1739332 wrote:I guess I just don't understand the point of you saying that. Of course if lebron never wins Cleveland a championship, he's going to take some heat. But does anyone actually believe he's going to win zero championships with this team?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2015 1:59pm
That isnt what you said. You said with the Cap...which implies a basic lack of knowledge on how the NBA and the NBA's Salary Cap work. He will be losing a LOT of money on it.thavoice;1739352 wrote:Not that hard to understand.
Sleeper asked if people would care if Gilbert loses money.
I simply replied that no he wouldnt lose money on the cavs. Dont tell me you are joining with the two stooges.
Now, he isnt gonna be broke, as he has other businesses on, and he will still turn a profit on the Cavs. But, he is definitely leaving a lot of money on the table by doing this, and in essence, losing a ton of it.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jul 7, 2015 2:06pm
Give it to him. And everytime he catches the ball inside the protected area around the rim and dribbles before putting up a layup, take $1 million off of it.sleeper;1739270 wrote:It's coming out that TT wants the contract that Draymond Green got and that's what's holding it up.
Instead of 5 years $80, he wants 5 years $85/$90.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 7, 2015 2:10pm
You are right. I was wrong.Laley23;1739359 wrote:That isnt what you said. You said with the Cap...which implies a basic lack of knowledge on how the NBA and the NBA's Salary Cap work. He will be losing a LOT of money on it.
Now, he isnt gonna be broke, as he has other businesses on, and he will still turn a profit on the Cavs. But, he is definitely leaving a lot of money on the table by doing this, and in essence, losing a ton of it.
Should know to go against what you say. You are probably the only one on this site whom can get the better of me.
With that said, the answer is still no to sleeper, people arent going to care if he loses money. They just want championships and if this team can stay healthy there is no reason why they wont get one.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 7, 2015 2:55pm
Honestly, if LBJ wants him to get paid, he should just let things play out. See if Thompson gets a max offer from another team, and if so, the Cavs will have no choice but to match it. If I'm the Cavs, I almost take the position that at this point, I tell TT that I match the best offer he gets. If his best offer is 5yr/60M or something, tough luck, that's what he gets.
If LeBron truly wanted him to "get the best he can", he would tell him not to sign, test the market to let all 30 teams have a shot, then go with that number. No bigger indication of value than that...
If LeBron truly wanted him to "get the best he can", he would tell him not to sign, test the market to let all 30 teams have a shot, then go with that number. No bigger indication of value than that...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 7, 2015 3:02pm
https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussardsleeper;1739286 wrote:ESPN Chris Broussard or w/e.
Nope not there. Haven't been able to colaborate what you're saying with anything on twitter. You hear this BR or something?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 7, 2015 3:03pm
The NBA is fucking crazy nowadays.
We're talking a max contract for a player who 2 seasons ago, SWITCHED HIS SHOOTING HAND. It's madness.
We're talking a max contract for a player who 2 seasons ago, SWITCHED HIS SHOOTING HAND. It's madness.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 7, 2015 3:08pm
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13214237Commander of Awesome;1739385 wrote:https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard
Nope not there. Haven't been able to colaborate what you're saying with anything on twitter. You hear this BR or something?
Okay? Jesus Christ.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 7, 2015 3:14pm
Cavs should let him test the market. He won't get that deal elsewhere.Automatik;1739386 wrote:The NBA is fucking crazy nowadays.
We're talking a max contract for a player who 2 seasons ago, SWITCHED HIS SHOOTING HAND. It's madness.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 7, 2015 3:15pm
It's a gay witch hunt for sleeper!!!
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 7, 2015 3:15pm
So he doesn't know the number, but it's around $85mil, and Cavs offered him $80mil. So he's heard? LOL has Chris Broussard ever been right? He's acting like TT's offer wasn't in the Green territory. If the difference is legit $5 million over 5 season, Cavs need to stop playing penis flickers and just get it fucking done.