Token
Posts: 64
Apr 4, 2015 9:13pm
Duke was the far better team against MSU. Hopefully Wisconsin can make it a good game against Kentucky.
Was hoping for two B10 teams in the finals but knew it was far-fetched.
Was hoping for two B10 teams in the finals but knew it was far-fetched.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2015 9:14pm
Well, to be fair a bad loss and "choking" are different, IMO.SportsAndLady;1718665 wrote:Everyone expects Kentucky to beat Wisconsin handily.
But according to mulva's logic, if Kentucky loses its not a bad loss for them because it is even seeding.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 4, 2015 9:15pm
Wisconsin is challenging my theory I tell my athletes "you only look stupid if you suck"
Those shorts
Those shorts
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 4, 2015 9:18pm
So I use hyperbole. My point still stands just take out choking.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 4, 2015 9:18pm
Everyone except Vegas, apparently. Wichita was a 2.5 point favorite in that game. It wasn't a gigantic upset, similarly to how Wisconsin as a 5 point underdog tonight wouldn't be a "gigantic" upset.SportsAndLady;1718661 wrote:It's not a tough concept it's a flawed concept.
Two years ago Wichita was the 1 seed and everyone knew Kentucky would beat them. Was that a gigantic upset?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 4, 2015 9:21pm
My god
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2015 9:22pm
Koenig got away with that. Wisconsin is 2/4 on open 3s. That will continue, as long as they get looks like this. Kentucky needs to do a better job. Wisconsin should just do that matchup they did early. When they get away from it, UK gets open 3s. Harrison and Ullis both have hit.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 4, 2015 9:23pm
Yeah, 33-0 but it wouldn't be a gigantic upset.Mulva;1718671 wrote:Everyone except Vegas, apparently. Wichita was a 2.5 point favorite in that game. It wasn't a gigantic upset, similarly to how Wisconsin as a 5 point underdog tonight wouldn't be a "gigantic" upset.
Come on
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 4, 2015 9:25pm
Wisconsin is a better basketball team, Kentucky has slightly better athletes though so this is interesting.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 4, 2015 9:27pm
How do you miss that call? So easy to see he never reestablished
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 4, 2015 9:27pm
Wichita State was 35-0 but everyone knew 8 seed Kentucky would win (as an underdog).SportsAndLady;1718674 wrote:Yeah, 33-0 but it wouldn't be a gigantic upset.
Come on
Come on
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Apr 4, 2015 9:28pm
I think we can all agree that Tom Izzo is not Adolph Rupp. Let's leave it at that.
Regardless of seeding, I agree with S&L and Laley that Izzo's record at the Final Four is most unimpressive. As I said earlier in this debate, winning a regional final and winning on Monday night at the Final Four are two entirely different animals. Izzo is a great coach. He is not, however, that great on the game's biggest stage.
He's the Marv Levy of college basketball coaches, which isn't that bad a thing.
Regardless of seeding, I agree with S&L and Laley that Izzo's record at the Final Four is most unimpressive. As I said earlier in this debate, winning a regional final and winning on Monday night at the Final Four are two entirely different animals. Izzo is a great coach. He is not, however, that great on the game's biggest stage.
He's the Marv Levy of college basketball coaches, which isn't that bad a thing.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 4, 2015 9:29pm
If Sam Dekker is going to make everything he throws up Wisconsin isn't going to lose.
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wghfan
Posts: 744
Apr 4, 2015 9:30pm
Kaminsky is a *****
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 4, 2015 9:31pm
Comparing that Wichita team to this UK team? Sound argument there mulva.Mulva;1718678 wrote:Wichita State was 35-0 but everyone knew 8 seed Kentucky would win (as an underdog).
Come on
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wghfan
Posts: 744
Apr 4, 2015 9:33pm
Wisconsin plays the game at such a slow pace, that it is hard to watch.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 4, 2015 9:35pm
No it's not, they play the game the right way.wghfan;1718683 wrote:Wisconsin plays the game at such a slow pace, that it is hard to watch.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 4, 2015 9:36pm
It wasn't my argument. It was yours from 2 posts before.SportsAndLady;1718682 wrote:Comparing that Wichita team to this UK team? Sound argument there mulva.
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wghfan
Posts: 744
Apr 4, 2015 9:38pm
Fuck that shit, the pace is too slow for me to watch.robj55;1718684 wrote:No it's not, they play the game the right way.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 4, 2015 9:40pm
Then don't watch, they have the most efficient offense in the country.wghfan;1718687 wrote:Fuck that shit, the pace is too slow for me to watch.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2015 9:41pm
Jesus. Has Jackson does anything worthwhile since he has been healthy. Just brutal.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 4, 2015 9:41pm
Well then you missed my argument completely.Mulva;1718685 wrote:It wasn't my argument. It was yours from 2 posts before.
A lot of people expected Kentucky to beat Wichita. That "upset" was barely that.
Wisconsin beating Kentucky this year would be a monumental upset. Yet they are both 1 seeds.
My point is it's about winning championships, not just final fours, and Izzo struggles going from final four to championship.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2015 9:42pm
The sound argument of someone who hasn't watched Wisconsin since 2012.wghfan;1718683 wrote:Wisconsin plays the game at such a slow pace, that it is hard to watch.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2015 9:43pm
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wisconsin won. I know a lot of people who took them ML in Vegas actually.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Apr 4, 2015 9:43pm
Wisconsin was one of the best offensive teams in the entire country this season. They were 12th in points scored per game out of 345 teams.