2015 NCAA Tournament Thread

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Apr 10, 2015 3:27pm
WebFire;1720652 wrote:I'm not talking about 1 time winners.

But you are right about those other things too.
Right I'm sure the hate for Duke was non-existent when they got blown out by Lehigh and Mercer.
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WebFire
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Apr 10, 2015 3:56pm
sleeper;1720665 wrote:Right I'm sure the hate for Duke was non-existent when they got blown out by Lehigh and Mercer.
Quit derping. By 1-time winner I mean the occasional champion. People hate on the consistent winners. Same reason people booed Dale Earnhardt or Jeff Gordon, or the New England Patriots, or the Yankees.

Comprende?
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Apr 10, 2015 4:04pm
WebFire;1720669 wrote:Quit derping. By 1-time winner I mean the occasional champion. People hate on the consistent winners. Same reason people booed Dale Earnhardt or Jeff Gordon, or the New England Patriots, or the Yankees.

Comprende?
I still think people hate Michigan even though they never win anything.
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WebFire
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Apr 10, 2015 4:05pm
sleeper;1720670 wrote:I still think people hate Michigan even though they never win anything.
They used to hate them but don't anymore. They hate OSU instead.

I expect reps.
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Apr 11, 2015 4:51pm
Kaminsky was immune to calls in the first half of that game
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Apr 12, 2015 1:36am
Spock;1720805 wrote:Kaminsky was immune to calls in the first half of that game
That little pull through he does with his arms definitely went unnoticed, but it's irrelevant. Scoreboard. Twice.
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Apr 12, 2015 1:22pm
Spock;1720805 wrote:Kaminsky was immune to calls in the first half of that game
reclegend22;1720892 wrote:That little pull through he does with his arms definitely went unnoticed, but it's irrelevant. Scoreboard. Twice.
Who wears the Redick jersey when you guys fuck?
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Apr 12, 2015 5:49pm
I am laettner and he plays Brian Davis
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Apr 15, 2015 3:42pm
Prescott,

You said Duke is now a win at all cost program implying they will bow to the one and done's year in year out.
While this year it appeared so, I do feel that K went all in with a specific group of kids that emerged in recruiting and that strategy will be far less the exception than the norm. Next year Duke has but one potential early draftee (Chase Jeter) and with the existing group in place I would surmise that K is probably going to let this year's group of players have their opportunity to excel and will add two more high profile recruits in 2016 to go with a great nucleus from the 2015 class.

It feels as if Duke will try to make a run every four years (K's words not mine) whereas Kentucky will try to make a run every year.

4 year run beginning in 1999
99-national runner up (four player exodus)
00-regional final (one player exodus)
01-National Title (one player)
02-Regional Final (three player exodus)
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Apr 15, 2015 3:47pm
swamisez;1721776 wrote:Prescott,

You said Duke is now a win at all cost program implying they will bow to the one and done's year in year out.
While this year it appeared so, I do feel that K went all in with a specific group of kids that emerged in recruiting and that strategy will be far less the exception than the norm. Next year Duke has but one potential early draftee (Chase Jeter) and with the existing group in place I would surmise that K is probably going to let this year's group of players have their opportunity to excel and will add two more high profile recruits in 2016 to go with a great nucleus from the 2015 class.

It feels as if Duke will try to make a run every four years (K's words not mine) whereas Kentucky will try to make a run every year.

4 year run beginning in 1999
99-national runner up (four player exodus)
00-regional final (one player exodus)
01-National Title (one player)
02-Regional Final (three player exodus)
Easy to make runs when its 8vs5 every game.
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Apr 15, 2015 3:51pm
Prescott,

You said Duke is now a win at all cost program implying they will bow to the one and done's year in year out.
While this year it appeared so, I do feel that K went all in with a specific group of kids that emerged in recruiting and that strategy will be far less the exception than the norm. Next year Duke has but one potential early draftee (Chase Jeter) and with the existing group in place I would surmise that K is probably going to let this year's group of players have their opportunity to excel and will add two more high profile recruits in 2016 to go with a great nucleus from the 2015 class.

It feels as if Duke will try to make a run every four years (K's words not mine) whereas Kentucky will try to make a run every year.

4 year run beginning in 2006

06-sweet sixteen (three player exodus) title contender
07-first round
08-second round
09-sweet sixteen
10-National Champion early title contender
11-sweet sixteen (three player exodus) title contender
12-first round
13-elite eight
14-first round
15-National Champion title contender
16-?
17- early title contender
18- title contender

This is my theory on how Duke will recruit in the coming years.
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Prescott
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Apr 15, 2015 4:26pm
Duke was once one of THE premiere academic schools(Although standards were lowered to admit desired recruits and classes were offered that kept those recruits eligible) with a great basketball team. Duke is now officially a basketball factory with academics a token gesture for b-ball players. Duke U: America's new #1 One and Done University
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Apr 15, 2015 4:29pm
Prescott;1721794 wrote:Duke was once one of THE premiere academic schools(Although standards were lowered to admit desired recruits and classes were offered that kept those recruits eligible) with a great basketball team. Duke is now officially a basketball factory with academics a token gesture for b-ball players. Duke U: America's new #1 One and Done University
If education is a token gesture for basketball players at Duke, what does that make education for athletes at UNC?

You just gave one of the all time "pot calling the kettle black" comments.
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Apr 15, 2015 5:45pm
lhslep134;1721795 wrote:If education is a token gesture for basketball players at Duke, what does that make education for athletes at UNC?

You just gave one of the all time "pot calling the kettle black" comments.
Let the record show that the puff classes at UNC were open to all students.
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Prescott
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Apr 15, 2015 7:32pm
lhslep134;1721795 wrote:If education is a token gesture for basketball players at Duke, what does that make education for athletes at UNC?

You just gave one of the all time "pot calling the kettle black" comments.
That would be true if I had ever claimed to be a UNC fan., which I haven't because I am not a UNC fan.

Duke needs to own what they have become----a OAD basketball factory that values winning above all else. AND, in today's climate, that is OK------Just own it.
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Apr 15, 2015 7:47pm
Prescott;1721856 wrote:That would be true if I had ever claimed to be a UNC fan., which I haven't because I am not a UNC fan.
Fair enough, I had you pegged from my memory as one of a few UNC fans on here (along with Wildcat). Any idea why I would think that? Maybe a strong dislike of Duke?

Whatever the reason, my bad.
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Apr 15, 2015 8:02pm
lhslep134;1721861 wrote:Fair enough, I had you pegged from my memory as one of a few UNC fans on here (along with Wildcat). Any idea why I would think that? Maybe a strong dislike of Duke?

Whatever the reason, my bad.
Yeah, he just hates Duke.
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Apr 15, 2015 8:16pm
Not sure Prescott can even be called an OSU fan, though that would be who he cheers for.

Just the definition if someone who hates a team more than they like their own, it seems.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:03pm
Laley23;1721867 wrote:
Just the definition if someone who hates a team more than they like their own, it seems.
So the worst kind of fan? lol
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Apr 15, 2015 9:14pm
Laley23;1721867 wrote:Not sure Prescott can even be called an OSU fan, though that would be who he cheers for.

Just the definition if someone who hates a team more than they like their own, it seems.
To clear things up, I am a huge OSU basketball and football fan. I have read about the likes of Robin Freeman, Mel Nowell, Jerry Lucas, and John Havlicek. I have watched the basketball Buckeyes intently since the days of Curtis Wilson, Dennis Hopson and Brad Sellers. I know about the Minnesota massacre and that Frank Howard(of baseball fame) was a pretty good basketball player. If that is the worst kind of fan then that is what I am.


My hatred for Duke has lessened a bit since they won. No longer can their fans adopt a holier than thou attitude. Duke is now the king of the OAD's and school that values winning above all else just like everybody else.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:21pm
Prescott;1721886 wrote:To clear things up, I am a huge OSU basketball and football fan. I have read about the likes of Robin Freeman, Mel Nowell, Jerry Lucas, and John Havlicek. I have watched the basketball Buckeyes intently since the days of Curtis Wilson, Dennis Hopson and Brad Sellers. I know about the Minnesota massacre and that Frank Howard(of baseball fame) was a pretty good basketball player. If that is the worst kind of fan then that is what I am.


My hatred for Duke has lessened a bit since they won. No longer can their fans adopt a holier than thou attitude. Duke is now the king of the OAD's and school that values winning above all else just like everybody else.
To be fair to myself, I said seems like. I know you like OSU, but the posts are geared to Duke hatred throughout the years more than OSU it seems.
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Prescott
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Apr 15, 2015 9:46pm
If you remember, there was guy on the other board that was the worst kind of Duke fan. It was he who fueled my hatred for Duke. The Duke fans this on board can be annoying, but they aren't insufferable twits like he was.

For the most part, I've stayed away from Duke this year because there isn't thread started on an hourly basis.


I should have mentioned that I was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio. I was educated at tOSU. The sports fans in my family are ardent supporters of tOSU.Growing up in that environment left me with little when it came to selecting a college team to support.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:47pm
TrinityBBfan? He was awful.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:58pm
Laley23;1721903 wrote:TrinityBBfan? He was awful.
He was isadore level stupid.
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Apr 15, 2015 10:23pm
Prescott;1721886 wrote:If that is the worst kind of fan then that is what I am.
Nah that was only in reference to you if you hated another team more than you like OSU but that's not the case