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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Apr 6, 2015 11:48pm
Yahoo headline.
Controversial call in final moments helps Duke win national title.
Controversial call in final moments helps Duke win national title.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 6, 2015 11:48pm
Loved watching Kaminsky this year. Cant wait to see him in the pros.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 6, 2015 11:48pm
Greg Gumbel clearly had that "classy and gracious" comment prepared in advance regarding Bo Ryan's comments.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 6, 2015 11:48pm
I disagree but respect your opinion.Laley23;1719531 wrote:Overall, he is not better. He is maybe better offensively than KAT. He is not as good as Okafor. He is not NEAR the defender as KAT, and about the same as Okafor (which is basically a cone).
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 6, 2015 11:48pm
To be fair, your the most biased person ever AGAINST Duke, so you see and hear things...Prescott;1719527 wrote:I think he is mid-first round. He would be a perfect Spur.
I have to say the bias towards Duke by the announcers was nauseating. When Grant Hill is the least biased of the 3 you know things were bad. I've always disliked Nantz, but I have always liked Raferty. He is better than what he showed tonight.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 6, 2015 11:49pm
The writing was on the wall from the second the Kentucky/Wisky game ended. It makes me ill. I am avoiding ESPN for the next few days.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 6, 2015 11:50pm
I just think your overestimating a good shot for offensive skill. It's a portion, but not the whole package. He can dribble and drive, but not great quickness. That craftiness and pump faking won't work in the NBA.robj55;1719536 wrote:I disagree but respect your opinion.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 6, 2015 11:51pm
Lol fuck Bo Ryan complaining about hand checking his team was doing the same fucking thing.
The refs were inconsistent for both teams. I think Wisconsin lost this game by not attacking down low when Okafor and Winslow were both on the bench for a long stretch. They also had no answer to stop Tyus Jones and Grayson Allen in the 2nd half.
The refs were inconsistent for both teams. I think Wisconsin lost this game by not attacking down low when Okafor and Winslow were both on the bench for a long stretch. They also had no answer to stop Tyus Jones and Grayson Allen in the 2nd half.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Apr 6, 2015 11:51pm
REC....
I told you earlier in the season that after OSU football and the Patiots both won championships that your boys were going to make it 3/3 for teams that I hate.
I told you earlier in the season that after OSU football and the Patiots both won championships that your boys were going to make it 3/3 for teams that I hate.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 6, 2015 11:53pm
There's no doubt he will have issues at the next level, but his footwork is better than both of those guys and is more productive. Doesn't necessarily mean it will translate but I think there are a lot of Okafor and Towns type players at the next level. Think maybe they are being overrated a bit,Laley23;1719539 wrote:I just think your overestimating a good shot for offensive skill. It's a portion, but not the whole package. He can dribble and drive, but not great quickness. That craftiness and pump faking won't work in the NBA.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 6, 2015 11:54pm
Reps cause I remember you saying it haha.sportswizuhrd;1719542 wrote:REC....
I told you earlier in the season that after OSU football and the Patiots both won championships that your boys were going to make it 3/3 for teams that I hate.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 7, 2015 12:03am
Lol yeah....Bo just getting in jab after jab lolMulva;1719535 wrote:Greg Gumbel clearly had that "classy and gracious" comment prepared in advance regarding Bo Ryan's comments.
Pretty contrary old fart
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Apr 7, 2015 12:05am
Wisconsin's ran shit for offense the last 5 minutes, and fouling Jones with 30 seconds left was idiotic. They could have still won the game had they played better. But this is just a lie. The entire second half was officiated with the sole purpose of keeping Duke in the game, and then ahead in the game.Iliketurtles;1719540 wrote:The refs were inconsistent for both teams.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Apr 7, 2015 12:11am
According to Bo Ryan, he did not call for the foul. Hayes tried to steal the ball and fouled Jones.GOONx19;1719532 wrote:Lol I'm fairly certain that wasn't Bo Ryan's decision. I'm not gonna go back and watch it, tough, so maybe he told them to.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Apr 7, 2015 12:13am
That is true, but I didn't hear a lot of praise for what Wisconsin did.Laley23;1719537 wrote:To be fair, your the most biased person ever AGAINST Duke, so you see and hear things...
I am not all that upset that duke won with their crew of one-and-dones. It magnifies the problem that exists in college basketball.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 7, 2015 12:15am
Terrible officiating without repercussions is really dampening my love of sports. I understand calls that are up for interpretation, but clearly stepping on the baseline and a ball going off a player(as they got to see visual evidence) are not calls up for interpretation.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Apr 7, 2015 12:17am
It should read,"Controversial calls in final moments helps Duke win national title."sportswizuhrd;1719533 wrote:Yahoo headline.
Controversial call in final moments helps Duke win national title.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 7, 2015 12:19am
Lol keep believing that. I won't disagree with anyone who wants to say Winslow should have been called for a charge and his 4th foul when he went recklessly into the lane and that ball was clearly off him I have no idea how it wasn't reversed on the replay. There were 2 clear angles that showed it going off his fingertip. Everything else the refs called stuff the same for both teams the entire game. And you are correct Wisconsin ran shit offense and quit attacking inside when Okafor and Winslow were on the bench and when they did go inside Duke played good defense.Cleveland Buck;1719552 wrote:Wisconsin's ran shit for offense the last 5 minutes, and fouling Jones with 30 seconds left was idiotic. They could have still won the game had they played better. But this is just a lie. The entire second half was officiated with the sole purpose of keeping Duke in the game, and then ahead in the game.
Also Prescott that makes sense from what I remember from that play didn't go look at any replays. I still don't think Hayes needed to foul once he missed the steal just one of those bonehead plays guys make after the miss the steal though.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 7, 2015 12:19am
Well surprise surprise, another fraud championship won by the refs. Sorry, but Duke gets every fucking call every fucking game. Looking forward to all these Duke basketball fans rooting hard for Duke football in the fall. Worst fan base in basketball; they deserve nothing.
Duke's legacy forever will be getting every call from the refs. Wisconsin was robbed.
Duke's legacy forever will be getting every call from the refs. Wisconsin was robbed.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 7, 2015 12:20am
The baseline play gets missed all the time refs aren't looking at that in that situation. It's obviously to see on replays though.se-alum;1719557 wrote:Terrible officiating without repercussions is really dampening my love of sports. I understand calls that are up for interpretation, but clearly stepping on the baseline and a ball going off a player(as they got to see visual evidence) are not calls up for interpretation.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 7, 2015 12:21am
Aw.sleeper;1719560 wrote:Well surprise surprise, another fraud championship won by the refs. Sorry, but Duke gets every fucking call every fucking game. Looking forward to all these Duke basketball fans rooting hard for Duke football in the fall. Worst fan base in basketball; they deserve nothing.
Duke's legacy forever will be getting every call from the refs. Wisconsin was robbed.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Apr 7, 2015 12:27am
Wisconsin had 5 team fouls before the under 16 timeout in the 2nd half, after committing 2 fouls the entire first half. Winslow had two charges not called, one was called a block, the other a no call. Winslow stepped out of bounds before the pass to Okafor on his and one. You had the ridiculous flop by Jones, not Tyus, the other one, called against Hayes. The ball went out of bounds off of Winslow. I found it to be a joke watching it. No one could really take that game seriously after seeing that officiating display in the second half.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Apr 7, 2015 12:34am
You know coach k got into the refs at halftime and changed their opinion of what a foul was.Cleveland Buck;1719563 wrote:Wisconsin had 5 team fouls before the under 16 timeout in the 2nd half, after committing 2 fouls the entire first half. Winslow had two charges not called, one was called a block, the other a no call. Winslow stepped out of bounds before the pass to Okafor on his and one. You had the ridiculous flop by Jones, not Tyus, the other one, called against Hayes. The ball went out of bounds off of Winslow. I found it to be a joke watching it. No one could really take that game seriously after seeing that officiating display in the second half.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 7, 2015 12:39am
They are supposed to be looking at that. The baseline official should be looking for what the other officials can't see, which would be a player stepping out of bounds.Iliketurtles;1719561 wrote:The baseline play gets missed all the time refs aren't looking at that in that situation. It's obviously to see on replays though.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 7, 2015 1:01am
The NCAA championship game and that is the best refs they could stick out there? Wisky was jobbed big time. Doesn't matter that Wisky didn't play well down the stretch. Had the blatant calls been called properly then Wisky is running out the clock...not Duke. A great basketball game was ruined.