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Mar 2, 2016 10:20 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784219 wrote:Put it this way.. If Rubio or Kasich is the candidate, I'm voting for Jill Stein. If Trump or Cruz is the candidate, I'm making sure those two fuckheads aren't ever POTUS. And there's a lot of Bernie supporters who don't care for Clintons like me that feel the same way.
This is pretty much how I feel. I will probably vote independent no matter what but if Trump/Cruz wins, I will probably vote for Hillary just to prevent the disaster and national embarrassment. I live and vote in Virginia now so my vote actually matters unlike DC.
Mar 2, 2016 10:20am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:24 AM
like_that;1784227 wrote:Lol, I live in DC. My views are in the minority. I am highly outnumbered by my friends.
Yeah DC is the liberal safe haven. I didn't know what liberalism really was until I lived there for a few years but holy shit its deeply left entrenched.
Mar 2, 2016 10:24am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:28 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784208 wrote:How in the world do you see Trump picking up the black vote lol? Have you not watched his campaign at all?
Tavis Smiley seems to think that Trump could pick up a decent amount of the black vote.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-black-voters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/

I've also heard the name Allen West as a possible VP choice for Trump.
Mar 2, 2016 10:28am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:30 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1784204 wrote: Perhaps I may like them, I don't know. That's the thing. I have no clue, other than "Trust me."
Yet in '08 you let a completely empty suit take you on the hope-n-change ride.
Mar 2, 2016 10:30am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:32 AM
sleeper;1784237 wrote:Yeah DC is the liberal safe haven. I didn't know what liberalism really was until I lived there for a few years but holy shit its deeply left entrenched.

That's what happens when a large group that never performed in the private sector is gifted with $3.5 trillion a year of other people's money.
Mar 2, 2016 10:32am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:34 AM
He kicks BLM out of every stop he's been at. You're delusional if you think he's getting the black vote.
Mar 2, 2016 10:34am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:34 AM
Apple;1784240 wrote:Tavis Smiley seems to think that Trump could pick up a decent amount of the black vote.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/01/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-black-voters-primary-elections-2016-column/81150932/

I've also heard the name Allen West as a possible VP choice for Trump.
Allen West is the shit. Wish he would've run for President. Love that guy.
Mar 2, 2016 10:34am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:36 AM
BR1986FB;1784248 wrote:Allen West is the shit. Wish he would've run for President. Love that guy.
..smh lol
Mar 2, 2016 10:36am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:39 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784249 wrote:..smh lol
Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:
Mar 2, 2016 10:39am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:40 AM
BR1986FB;1784251 wrote:Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:
says the guy who falls back on one word labels... yeah that does sound like an Allen West supporter.
Mar 2, 2016 10:40am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:41 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784232 wrote:lol I know.. believe it or not I don't mind you at all, like_that. Ive got a very good friend who calls me out on my hyperbolic shit which I admittedly have a terrible tendency to do... you're that role on here. Well you and QCB.
This is all internet and busting balls for me. Other than said, Monty, and probably tiernan I would be ok with getting a beer with anyone on this site.
Mar 2, 2016 10:41am
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Mar 2, 2016 10:50 AM
QuakerOats;1784242 wrote:Yet in '08 you let a completely empty suit take you on the hope-n-change ride.
Loved McCain, until he picked Palin and saw more and more former Bush neocons as his advisers.
Mar 2, 2016 10:50am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:01 AM
BR1986FB;1784251 wrote:Says the guy who backs the Socialist...:rolleyes:
At least Bernie appears to have real, if flawed to most of us, beliefs. I believe the Clintons have none. Its all politics with them. I believe my earlier characterization of her (and her husband) as sociopaths is accurate. Bernie's just a wackadoodle.
Mar 2, 2016 11:01am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:02 AM
like_that;1784254 wrote:This is all internet and busting balls for me. Other than said, Monty, and probably tiernan I would be ok with getting a beer with anyone on this site.
isadore?
Mar 2, 2016 11:02am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:02 AM
BoatShoes;1784146 wrote:These words have all become meaningless in our political discourse



^George Orwell on Political Language.

It is way easier for people to just say "Commie!" rather than argue policies on the merits e.g.

I give you the term 'progressive'.

Yet another example of the left using subterfuge to gain more power. Many know the term is essentially code word for marxism (in practice), but not enough know. So the liberal democrat candidate in the U.S. uses this word instead of the other word in order to hoodwink a certain segment of voters.

Words have meanings, and the use of the proper descriptors in public discourse is highly important. When the left attempts to hide the truth, it often changes terminology or shutters speech to gain advantage, as disingenuous as it is.
Mar 2, 2016 11:02am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:05 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784247 wrote:He kicks BLM out of every stop he's been at. You're delusional if you think he's getting the black vote.
I don't think he meant that Trump would WIN the black vote, but would pull a decent amount, more than say McCain or Romney did.
Mar 2, 2016 11:05am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:08 AM
queencitybuckeye;1784262 wrote:At least Bernie appears to have real, if flawed to most of us, beliefs. I believe the Clintons have none. Its all politics with them. I believe my earlier characterization of her (and her husband) as sociopaths is accurate. Bernie's just a wackadoodle.

Now now... Hillary and Bill both hold one strong core belief... their focus groups tell them what the populous wants to hear.
Mar 2, 2016 11:08am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:15 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784266 wrote:Now now... Hillary and Bill both hold one strong core belief... their focus groups tell them what the populous wants to hear.

I'd be O.K. with that so long as they carried out their Executive duties based on the limitations of the Constitution combined with the manner the populous wanted. Wish we could find that person.
Mar 2, 2016 11:15am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:20 AM
If Trump would call me and ask for my advice for VP with the intention of gaining Black voters, women and bitch slap Hillary

Condoleezza ( Condi) Rice Trump and Condi
Mar 2, 2016 11:20am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:21 AM
Con_Alma;1784267 wrote:I'd be O.K. with that so long as they carried out their Executive duties based on the limitations of the Constitution combined with the manner the populous wanted. Wish we could find that person.
well that would be a rare breed for sure.
Mar 2, 2016 11:21am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:30 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784269 wrote:well that would be a rare breed for sure.
That individual will never be found in today political gene pool as long as the senate and congress have career term longevity.
"Term Limits for a better America"
Mar 2, 2016 11:30am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:31 AM
Belly35;1784268 wrote:If Trump would call me and ask for my advice for VP with the intention of gaining Black voters, women and bitch slap Hillary

Condoleezza ( Condi) Rice Trump and Condi
No freaking way is Condi getting near that circus.
Mar 2, 2016 11:31am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:40 AM
If trump gets 1 of every 4 black voters to vote for him, this election is over.

Also, does he kick BLM supporters out of his rallies, or do they do a bunch of stupid shit to disrupt the rally and get themselves kicked out?
Mar 2, 2016 11:40am
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Mar 2, 2016 11:47 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1784273 wrote:No freaking way is Condi getting near that circus.
I agree 100%. I would LOVE for Condi Rice to make a run for POTUS, but I highly doubt she would jump on the Trump circus.
Mar 2, 2016 11:47am