Archive 2015 General College Football Discussion

Azubuike24

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Nov 14, 2015 11:13pm

Well, the way it's going, LSU lost, MSU should lose (to OSU), Stanford lost, Baylor/OU, Baylor/TCU, Baylor/OSU, OSU/OU, TCU/OU, Bama/Florida, if ND finishes with 1 loss, they are almost a lock to get in the playoff now.

Heck, if Utah wins out, they are still in the discussion as well.

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rydawg5

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Nov 14, 2015 11:36pm

Oklahoma has to be on the short list for top 4 if they hold on, on the road in Waco.

sherm03

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Nov 14, 2015 11:49pm

Azubuike24;1763342 wrote:Well, the way it's going, LSU lost, MSU should lose (to OSU), Stanford lost, Baylor/OU, Baylor/TCU, Baylor/OSU, OSU/OU, TCU/OU, Bama/Florida, if ND finishes with 1 loss, they are almost a lock to get in the playoff now.

Heck, if Utah wins out, they are still in the discussion as well.

rydawg5;1763347 wrote:Oklahoma has to be on the short list for top 4 if they hold on, on the road in Waco.

I think if Oklahoma wins out, even though they lost to Texas, their wins over Baylor, TCU, and Oklahoma State would trump ND's wins and they would be in.

That's why I said that ND needed Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma to lose 1 game between tonight and the end of the season. Baylor lost theirs. So essentially they are out of contention, IMO. If Baylor beats Oklahoma State next week, and then Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma at Bedlam, then ND is in. If Oklahoma or Oklahoma State wins out, I think they get the spot ahead of ND.

Crimson streak

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Nov 15, 2015 6:37am

I don't think Oklahoma gets in over ND even if they win out. That Texas loss is a bad one and the committee hates the big 12

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slingshot4ever

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Nov 15, 2015 9:00am

Pac12 is all done...4 power conferences left

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vball10set

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Nov 15, 2015 9:08am

Crimson streak;1763375 wrote:2014: I don't think OSU gets in over TCU even if they win out. That Virginia Tech loss is a bad one and the committee hates the big 10

just sayin'

Crimson streak

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Nov 15, 2015 9:26am

vball10set;1763378 wrote:just sayin'

Totally different scenario. Especially with the schedule ND plays. And honestly I think both get in. Someone in the top 3 is going to lose

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Azubuike24

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Nov 15, 2015 9:28am

Things are getting very interesting.

Clemson (North Carolina)
North Carolina (Clemson)
Oklahoma State (Baylor, Oklahoma)
Oklahoma (TCU, Oklahoma State)
Baylor (Oklahoma State, TCU)
TCU (Oklahoma, Baylor)
Ohio State (Michigan State, maybe Iowa)
Michigan State (Ohio State, maybe Iowa
Iowa (Ohio State or Michigan State)
Notre Dame
Florida (Alabama)
Alabama (Florida)

There are literally 12 teams that have a chance. However, 3 of them will involve conference title games. You then have the Big 12, who pretty much still has all of their big games left.

We might actually see 2-loss teams STILL in the discussion, or Houston could sneak into the conversation if losses keep happening.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 15, 2015 9:53am

Azubuike24;1763381 wrote:Things are getting very interesting.

Clemson (North Carolina)
North Carolina (Clemson)
Oklahoma State (Baylor, Oklahoma)
Oklahoma (TCU, Oklahoma State)
Baylor (Oklahoma State, TCU)
TCU (Oklahoma, Baylor)
Ohio State (Michigan State, maybe Iowa)
Michigan State (Ohio State, maybe Iowa
Iowa (Ohio State or Michigan State)
Notre Dame
Florida (Alabama)
Alabama (Florida)

There are literally 12 teams that have a chance. However, 3 of them will involve conference title games. You then have the Big 12, who pretty much still has all of their big games left.

We might actually see 2-loss teams STILL in the discussion, or Houston could sneak into the conversation if losses keep happening.

Carolina had no chance. Unfortunately when you play 2 FCS teams and lose to a bad South Carolina, you will be on the outside.

Even if they would beat Clemson, I think the Tigers would still be ranked ahead of them.

lhslep134

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Nov 15, 2015 10:03am

Adios Big 12 (unless complete chaos occurs). 4 straight years Zona has taken down a top 10 team.

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 10:11am

Azubuike24;1763381 wrote:Things are getting very interesting.

Clemson (North Carolina)
North Carolina (Clemson)
Oklahoma State (Baylor, Oklahoma)
Oklahoma (TCU, Oklahoma State)
Baylor (Oklahoma State, TCU)
TCU (Oklahoma, Baylor)
Ohio State (Michigan State, maybe Iowa)
Michigan State (Ohio State, maybe Iowa
Iowa (Ohio State or Michigan State)
Notre Dame
Florida (Alabama)
Alabama (Florida)

There are literally 12 teams that have a chance. However, 3 of them will involve conference title games. You then have the Big 12, who pretty much still has all of their big games left.

We might actually see 2-loss teams STILL in the discussion, or Houston could sneak into the conversation if losses keep happening.

Just curious, why didn't you include the Stanford game for ND? I know they lost last night, but my guess is they don't fall out of the top 25. I'm going to guess that they fall and NC jumps to where both are near the same ranking on Tuesday.

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 10:14am

Crimson streak;1763375 wrote:I don't think Oklahoma gets in over ND even if they win out. That Texas loss is a bad one and the committee hates the big 12

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I know that Texas loss is a bad one. But I remember hearing on Tuesday, they asked Jeff Long about ND's loss to Clemson being the best loss and he said that they look more at who a team beat than who they lost to. That could just be bullshit. But I'd have to think that if OU won out, their wins would be better than ND's, but their loss would be worse. So which ones outweighs the other?

lhslep134

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Nov 15, 2015 10:16am

sherm03;1763388 wrote:Just curious, why didn't you include the Stanford game for ND? I know they lost last night, but my guess is they don't fall out of the top 25. I'm going to guess that they fall and NC jumps to where both are near the same ranking on Tuesday.

He lists games against other teams on that list. Stanford is no longer on that list of realistic contenders.

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 10:35am

lhslep134;1763392 wrote:He lists games against other teams on that list. Stanford is no longer on that list of realistic contenders.

Got it. That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

SportsAndLady

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Nov 15, 2015 10:38am

lhslep134;1763386 wrote:Adios Big 12 (unless complete chaos occurs). 4 straight years Zona has taken down a top 10 team.

Zona won me a lot of money lol I saw they beat a top 10 team in three straight seasons so I parlayed them with Oklahoma ML and sat back and cashed in.

Zona is always good for a nice payday on an underdog ML.

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slingshot4ever

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Nov 15, 2015 11:07am

Oklahoma will have a stronger resume if they win out compared to ND. ND would likely only have 1 top 25 victory (Navy) as another Stanford loss would drop them out of the top 25.

Oklahoma will have beaten TCU, OSU, and Baylor.

Azubuike24

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Nov 15, 2015 11:56am

I struggled putting UNC on there, but I mean, there could be only 2 or 3 teams with 1 or less losses. They would at least be in the discussion, especially since their loss has been August and they have destroyed everyone since. If they beat Clemson soundly, it would be hard to not discuss them.

gerb131

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Nov 15, 2015 12:36pm

Clemson #1 in coaches poll now

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 12:44pm

slingshot4ever;1763403 wrote:Oklahoma will have a stronger resume if they win out compared to ND. ND would likely only have 1 top 25 victory (Navy) as another Stanford loss would drop them out of the top 25.

Oklahoma will have beaten TCU, OSU, and Baylor.

I think another Stanford loss would drop them out temporarily. If they won the Pac 12 Championship game, they'd be right back in the top 25, IMO.

But using that thinking, another loss could drop TCU and Baylor out of the top 25. TCU's loss against Oklahoma State dropped them 7 spots in the CFP committee rankings. I think the Baylor loss could do the same since that's the first time they played anyone all season and lost. So they could be around 15 as well with TCU. Oklahoma beats TCU, that's going to knock them out of the top 25, and then OSU beats Baylor and it knocks Baylor out of the top 25.

So Oklahoma would have a win over OSU as their sole win over a top 25 team. ND would have (possibly) Navy, (possibly) Stanford, and USC could even potentially get back in the top 25 if they beat Oregon and UCLA over the next 2 weeks.

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slingshot4ever

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Nov 15, 2015 12:51pm

I'm just saying strength OU wins would be better than that of ND.

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 12:54pm

slingshot4ever;1763435 wrote:I'm just saying strength OU wins would be better than that of ND.

I can respect that opinion. And for the record, I agree that I think OU would get in over ND if they both win out. I just think it would be a tougher decision than I originally thought it would be last night after that OU/Baylor game.

SportsAndLady

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Nov 15, 2015 12:55pm

You can't just assume a nd opponent will lose another game just to fit your argument lol that's awful logic.

sherm03

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Nov 15, 2015 12:57pm

SportsAndLady;1763437 wrote:You can't just assume a nd opponent will lose another game just to fit your argument lol that's awful logic.

I took it as him saying that if ND were to win out, that would include a win over Stanford. And after last night, Stanford losing to ND would drop them out of the top 25.

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slingshot4ever

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Nov 15, 2015 1:23pm

sherm03;1763439 wrote:I took it as him saying that if ND were to win out, that would include a win over Stanford. And after last night, Stanford losing to ND would drop them out of the top 25.

that is my thought...I think ND is hurt by having Stanford and temple lose this weekend...wins over those two won't look as good anymore....can't expect a bank teller to understand though...

SportsAndLady

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Nov 15, 2015 1:34pm

sherm03;1763439 wrote:I took it as him saying that if ND were to win out, that would include a win over Stanford. And after last night, Stanford losing to ND would drop them out of the top 25.

Ah okay that makes more sense.