Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 12, 2015 9:50am
Yep, that argument ruined the whole theory for me.FatHobbit;1762667 wrote:I don't give a shit how many points per possession they gave up. They gave up 663 yards of offense and that is not good.
I do think OSU is getting the benefit of the doubt from being defending champs with a bunch of returning starters and also being undefeated so far this year. I have no explanation for bama. Frankly I'm a little annoyed they are grouping the sec with the B1G.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 12, 2015 10:36am
Under the old system, Ohio State would still be #1 without a doubt. Under the new system, and we saw it last year, being the defending champion and being undefeated are rather irrelevant for better or for worse.FatHobbit;1762667 wrote:I don't give a shit how many points per possession they gave up. They gave up 663 yards of offense and that is not good.
I do think OSU is getting the benefit of the doubt from being defending champs with a bunch of returning starters and also being undefeated so far this year. I have no explanation for bama. Frankly I'm a little annoyed they are grouping the sec with the B1G.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 12, 2015 10:52am
I hear people complaining about the top 4. I actually don't give a shit as long as OSU is in.
I'm open to playing anyone, but right now ND would be my first choice.
I'm open to playing anyone, but right now ND would be my first choice.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 12, 2015 11:31am
Agree with all of thisAutomatik;1762703 wrote:I hear people complaining about the top 4. I actually don't give a shit as long as OSU is in.
I'm open to playing anyone, but right now ND would be my first choice.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 12, 2015 11:41am
No, they would be #2.sleeper;1762698 wrote:Under the old system, Ohio State would still be #1 without a doubt. Under the new system, and we saw it last year, being the defending champion and being undefeated are rather irrelevant for better or for worse.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 12, 2015 11:43am
But like auto said...all that matters is that there is a 1, 2, 3, or 4 before the words Ohio State.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 12, 2015 3:53pm
No, they would be #1. Using a simulator is irrelevant because the coaches poll is now meaningless and therefore cannot be held constant to past coaches poll. Teams that are defending champions, started the next season at #1, and were undefeated, remained at #1 until they lost.wildcats20;1762714 wrote:No, they would be #2.
Look it up. Nice try!
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 13, 2015 1:05pm
Unfortunately I don't think OSU makes it this year. This team has given me zero confidence they will survive unscathed over the next 4 weeks.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 13, 2015 1:12pm
There's no chance OSU loses this year especially if Clemson and ND remain in the CFP pool. I think people are forgetting the sheer talent differential between OSU and the rest of the B1G that's accumulated over the last decade and even more so since Urban took over. Clemson and ND are on par with the average B1G recruiting teams too.Tiernan;1762950 wrote:Unfortunately I don't think OSU makes it this year. This team has given me zero confidence they will survive unscathed over the next 4 weeks.
Alabama is probably the only team with a chance of making the CFP that has the talent level on par with OSU. However, we saw last year how the talent stacks up and if I'm Bama I wouldn't be at all confident in beating OSU. Yes, I understand the offense looks shaky and hasn't played well but I think over the course of the next few games we will start to see JT really turn up the offensive heat. It wouldn't surprise me at all to blow out both Michigan and MSU.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 13, 2015 10:20pm
Colorado up 17-3 on USC
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Nov 14, 2015 12:51pm
Connor Cook appears to be hurt. This could be huge.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2015 6:08pm
These refs in the Clemson/Cuse game are jokes
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 14, 2015 6:10pm
They are saying he was only held out of the 2nd half for precautionary reasons. But I feel like that might be a front.superman;1763177 wrote:Connor Cook appears to be hurt. This could be huge.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2015 6:12pm
Oklahoma State down 10 to Iowa State with about a minute to go in the 3rd. After TCU barely beat Kansas today, the Big 12 looking like garbage. I'm thinking Oklahoma beats Baylor tonight and any credibility the conference has is shot.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2015 6:13pm
Or Baylor wins by 28sherm03;1763260 wrote:Oklahoma State down 10 to Iowa State with about a minute to go in the 3rd. After TCU barely beat Kansas today, the Big 12 looking like garbage. I'm thinking Oklahoma beats Baylor tonight and any credibility the conference has is shot.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 14, 2015 6:14pm
As are the Indiana/Michigan refs.SportsAndLady;1763258 wrote:These refs in the Clemson/Cuse game are jokes
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2015 6:22pm
Not watching, but I'm hearing that is also true.wildcats20;1763264 wrote:As are the Indiana/Michigan refs.
I've never actually seen a 30 yard penalty (two penalties), but these Cuse/Clemson refs made sure I did today.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2015 6:42pm
I would take Oklahoma in a heartbeat if you're giving 28 points.Ironman92;1763263 wrote:Or Baylor wins by 28
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Nov 14, 2015 6:51pm
They let the Mich QB give himself up on a scramble slide a yard short of the first down line, yet gave him a first down.wildcats20;1763264 wrote:As are the Indiana/Michigan refs.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2015 6:56pm
Oklahoma State came back and then held on to beat Iowa State. They still have Baylor and Oklahoma left. I don't see them beating both.
I still think the Big 12 doesn't have an undefeated team by the end of the year.
I still think the Big 12 doesn't have an undefeated team by the end of the year.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 14, 2015 7:04pm
IU running all over Michigan.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2015 7:05pm
Harbaugh's going down to Indiana?
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Nov 14, 2015 7:06pm
Mich for one or two?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 14, 2015 7:07pm
Michigan is terrible. I love it!
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2015 7:17pm
Wow. Can't believe Michigan scored there.
Looked like the kid was going to shank that EP and I was going to laugh my dick off.
Looked like the kid was going to shank that EP and I was going to laugh my dick off.