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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:03pm
                            
                        
                                The failure to run the ball on the 2nd and goal at the 5 yd line play with 2:06 to go was key to the final result.  They get to the 2 min warning on that play and Brady wouldn't have had the time he did to do all those dink passes.  Would have had to go downfield more and risk the interception.  Giants had the interception in their hands, but that hard ground causes a lot of missed picks just like it causes a lot of incompletions. Great game!
                            
                         
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:14pm
                            
                        I tend to agree, they should run the ball more, but they never let a guy get comforable.mhs95_06;1763689 wrote:The failure to run the ball on the 2nd and goal at the 5 yd line play with 2:06 to go was key to the final result. They get to the 2 min warning on that play and Brady wouldn't have had the time he did to do all those dink passes. Would have had to go downfield more and risk the interception. Giants had the interception in their hands, but that hard ground causes a lot of missed picks just like it causes a lot of incompletions. Great game!
For what ever reason the Giants feel that a 4 headed RB monster is the way to go, however all that really does is limit each guy, and never really gets one guy going. Because they swap so often, there is no chance for a back to get in to a rhythm and be able to be trusted.
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:27pm
                            
                        
                                Many pregame guys earlier said the Cards will win in Seattle because Arizona is the better team.
I think Seattle kicks it in gear tonight and becomes a NFC threat for the SB
Seattle 27
Arizona 16
                        I think Seattle kicks it in gear tonight and becomes a NFC threat for the SB
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                                                                Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:46pm
                            
                        
                                The Cardinals aren't that great.  Good, but the talks of them being great early on are overblown.  Carson Palmer is their QB.  Chris Johnson is their RB.  I mean, 3 years ago, those guys were basically unemployable.
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:51pm
                            
                        Carson Palmer is an MVP candidate (not going to win, but top 5 for sure). And Chris Johnson isn't having a bad year.Azubuike24;1763701 wrote:The Cardinals aren't that great. Good, but the talks of them being great early on are overblown. Carson Palmer is their QB. Chris Johnson is their RB. I mean, 3 years ago, those guys were basically unemployable.
They're a pretty good team.
 
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 8:54pm
                            
                        Kurt Warner was bagging groceries before he got a tryout with the Rams.Azubuike24;1763701 wrote:The Cardinals aren't that great. Good, but the talks of them being great early on are overblown. Carson Palmer is their QB. Chris Johnson is their RB. I mean, 3 years ago, those guys were basically unemployable.
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 9:08pm
                            
                        
                                To or about the line of scrimmage? That needs a change in wording. Too open
That play should be called a safety IMO....ball landed on the 7 and no where near anyone. LOS was the 10
                        That play should be called a safety IMO....ball landed on the 7 and no where near anyone. LOS was the 10
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 9:08pm
                            
                        But Kurt wasn't unemployed....HighRoller74;1763703 wrote:Kurt Warner was bagging groceries before he got a tryout with the Rams.
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 9:09pm
                            
                        Their defense has been really goodSportsAndLady;1763702 wrote:Carson Palmer is an MVP candidate (not going to win, but top 5 for sure). And Chris Johnson isn't having a bad year.
They're a pretty good team.
                                        
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                                                                Wolves of Babylon
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 9:44pm
                            
                        
                                Peyton breaks Favre record and gets benched. 5-20 4 picks. This has to be his final year. 17 picks this year already
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 11:32pm
                            
                        
                                Remember when the Packers were once 6-0? Fast forward a few weeks and now they're in one of the wild card spots.
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Nov 15, 2015 11:34pm
                            
                        
                                Ref is standing right there and doesn't see that Palmer hit Wagner then he fell to the ground?
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 12:19am
                            
                        
                                Drew Stanton cheering Ellington on brought the lulz. It looked like afterward Palmer was motioning someone in the crowd to suck it.
                            
                         
                                                                Terry_Tate
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 12:25am
                            
                        Those 2 moments have to be gifs. Stanton looked goofy as hell cheering Ellington then taunting Chancellor, lol.friendfromlowry;1763732 wrote:Drew Stanton cheering Ellington on brought the lulz. It looked like afterward Palmer was motioning someone in the crowd to suck it.
 
                                                                DeyDurkie5
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 2:01am
                            
                        Andy dalton sucks. Take the blinders off, realize that, enjoy the ride of this year, and then come back Ina few years and say "yes, he does suck"Azubuike24;1763382 wrote:Thing is though...he came in as a 2nd rounder...started day 1, has led playoff teams every year. I just think expectations jumped very fast for him BECAUSE they got to the playoffs so quickly. A QB who slowly got built up and took 3-4 years to even make the playoffs wouldn't get the same criticism.
He's actually been mediocre to good his entire career, at least 80% of it. It's just the bad 20% usually came in the playoff games or the spotlight games where he got some attention. He's got a near 88 overall QBR for his career.
...and yes, he can win league MVP this year but if he chokes in his first playoff game, the arguments will remain.
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 9:20am
                            
                        
                                Schefter just tweeted Manning has/had torn plantar fascia.
                            
                         
                                                                Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 9:28am
                            
                        
                                Sure, Palmer is having a good year.  He's still Carson Palmer.  What has he ever achieved besides being good?  And yes, Arizona is certainly capable of winning the NFC, given that the NFC really is pretty weak.  Their only hump is basically Carolina on the road, which is a decent match-up for the Cardinals considering they can get you in a shootout.
It will be important for Arizona to get the 2-seed, and not end up having to play Green Bay or New York potentially in a wild card game.
                        It will be important for Arizona to get the 2-seed, and not end up having to play Green Bay or New York potentially in a wild card game.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 9:44am
                            
                        Lol. You do this every week. Make a prediction that turns out to be wrong. Then try and spin.Azubuike24;1763770 wrote:Sure, Palmer is having a good year. He's still Carson Palmer. What has he ever achieved besides being good? And yes, Arizona is certainly capable of winning the NFC, given that the NFC really is pretty weak. Their only hump is basically Carolina on the road, which is a decent match-up for the Cardinals considering they can get you in a shootout.
It will be important for Arizona to get the 2-seed, and not end up having to play Green Bay or New York potentially in a wild card game.
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 9:53am
                            
                        Pretty much this.SportsAndLady;1763775 wrote:Lol. You do this every week. Make a prediction that turns out to be wrong. Then try and spin.
 
                                                                Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 10:27am
                            
                        
                                What prediction did I make?
...and what has Carson Palmer ever done? He's winning in the regular season. The same thing Andy Dalton gets no credit for.
                        ...and what has Carson Palmer ever done? He's winning in the regular season. The same thing Andy Dalton gets no credit for.
 
                                                                Automatik
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 10:31am
                            
                        
                                Don't you ever get sick of fighting this fight?
Romo nutswingers do the same thing.
                        Romo nutswingers do the same thing.
 
                                                                Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 10:34am
                            
                        
                                Not really, because I just don't understand the idea that there is any confidence in a Carson Palmer led team in the post-season.  Based on what?  The guy has been ridiculed for not being clutch or avoiding the choke play his whole career.
This isn't really a Dalton debate at all.
                        This isn't really a Dalton debate at all.
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 10:39am
                            
                        Yet you are jerking off to dalton's recent stretch of play. Quit contradicting yourself.Azubuike24;1763793 wrote:Not really, because I just don't understand the idea that there is any confidence in a Carson Palmer led team in the post-season. Based on what? The guy has been ridiculed for not being clutch or avoiding the choke play his whole career.
This isn't really a Dalton debate at all.
 
                                                                Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 11:04am
                            
                        
                                Nah.  I know if Dalton doesn't win in the playoffs, it's all irrelevant.
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Nov 16, 2015 11:05am
                            
                        Your comments on Arizona and Palmer before the game last night were just straight wrong.Azubuike24;1763788 wrote:What prediction did I make?
...and what has Carson Palmer ever done? He's winning in the regular season. The same thing Andy Dalton gets no credit for.