SportsAndLady;1689777 wrote:Yes, let's package our first round pick QB from last year and our second round supp draft pick from two years ago who happened to make the pro bowl last year for a third round pick.
Genius organizational moves there. I wish I wasn't so short sighted and saw things like you see them.
Commander of Awesome;1689787 wrote:If they don't believe Gordon will turn it around (nothing makes me think he will) Id rather get a 3rd round now then nothing when he's suspended for the whole yr next season.
I'd rather Gordon get his act together and pwn for the browns though.
friendfromlowry;1689801 wrote:I'd be more focused on trading Gordon, but Manziel is certainly heading down that path.
The BSPN article doesn't make it sound good:
se-alum;1689810 wrote:I honestly don't care if either are on the roster next season. Strong organizations don't put up with this stuff. The Seahawks shipped Percy Harvin out for his attitude, and Belichick basically benched a guy that ran for 200yds and 4td's the game before he was late for a team meeting. Pettine seems like a no nonsense guy, and shouldn't be saddled with these guys we he's trying to change the culture. Gordon's probably trying to get released, and he'll get signed by someone, but Johnny might want to start brushing up on Canadian football rules.
salto;1689815 wrote:The good Dr. is right in saying trade them but Gordon himself is easily worth a 2nd rd. pick. He can't make another pro bowl if he's not on the field. As for Johnny F-up, he's is not worth spit.
Interesting that most everyone else agrees with me. Yes, it sucks that it appears Johnny and Gilbert were wasted first round picks (I am still holding out hope for Gilbert, but he's got a ton of growing up to do), and it blows that a player as talented as Gordon has put the organization in this position, but like others have said, GREAT FRANCHISES DON'T PUT UP WITH THIS CRAP.
Manziel has been a huge problem all season. I didn't care for him coming into the draft, and now I despise him because he's bringing teammates down with him. Gordon is one strike away from being out of the league for good. The team has stuck by him, and he shoves it in their face by coming off his suspension out of shape, unfamiliar with the playbook, and missing team meetings.
But you're right S & L, let's keep him around. He's a "me-first" loser. He's shown that what is on his agenda is more important to him than his career or his team, and a franchise trying to correct itself to return to relevance needs nothing to do with players like that, regardless of how talented they are.
