You seriously want to keep these guys around? Look at the organizations who win constantly... They don't put up with this garbage. It's a "My way or the highway" mindset, and if players don't buy in, they are kicked to the curb pretty quickly.SportsAndLady;1689769 wrote:Jesus. Just fucking stop
Yes, let's package our first round pick QB from last year and our second round supp draft pick from two years ago who happened to make the pro bowl last year for a third round pick.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1689775 wrote:You seriously want to keep these guys around? Look at the organizations who win constantly... They don't put up with this garbage. It's a "My way or the highway" mindset, and if players don't buy in, they are kicked to the curb pretty quickly.
You're so short-sighted it's comical...
Reminds me of the immaturity of Michael Irvin....he figured it out but guys like Santonio Holmes did not.Commander of Awesome;1689787 wrote:If they don't believe Gordon will turn it around (nothing makes me think he will) Id rather get a 3rd round now then nothing when he's suspended for the whole yr next season.
I'd rather Gordon get his act together and pwn for the browns though.
I'd be more focused on trading Gordon, but Manziel is certainly heading down that path.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1689764 wrote:Was having this conversation with a buddy tonight. I'd trade them both for a 3rd round pick. The portion of Bernie's rant that I agreed with is that culture needs to change. I believe Pettine has begun the process, but "ME" guys need to go. This includes Gordon, Manziel, and did include Tate who they already let go weeks ago.
Both Gordon and rookie quarterback Johnny Manziel were absent from the Browns' walk-through Saturday morning, and the team had trouble locating them
The good Dr. is right in saying trade them but Gordon himself is easily worth a 2nd rd. pick. He can't make another pro bowl if he's not on the field. As for Johnny F-up, he's is not worth spit.SportsAndLady;1689777 wrote:Yes, let's package our first round pick QB from last year and our second round supp draft pick from two years ago who happened to make the pro bowl last year for a third round pick.
Genius organizational moves there. I wish I wasn't so short sighted and saw things like you see them.
Harvin would still be in Seattle if he could stay healthy. Also, if we had Tom Brady behind center and BB as our coach I would have no problem shipping Gordon for a 3rd. But we don't. We have QBs who look like shit and a bunch of borderline #2 or 3 receivers. We simply cant afford to just give them away.se-alum;1689810 wrote:I honestly don't care if either are on the roster next season. Strong organizations don't put up with this stuff. The Seahawks shipped Percy Harvin out for his attitude, and Belichick basically benched a guy that ran for 200yds and 4td's the game before he was late for a team meeting. Pettine seems like a no nonsense guy, and shouldn't be saddled with these guys we he's trying to change the culture. Gordon's probably trying to get released, and he'll get signed by someone, but Johnny might want to start brushing up on Canadian football rules.
I'd give it about a 0.3% of signing either of them.shook_17;1689863 wrote:From tony Grossi. I'd love this move.
Hey Steve: I have heard the Browns are considering Suh as a prime free agent target. They are once again among the league leaders in projected salary cap room and may be willing to make him the highest-paid defensive lineman in NFL history. That’s the type of contract it will take to attract Suh. His defensive line teammate, Nick Fairley, also is a free agent and would be considered a consolation prize to teams failing to land Suh.
How could you let someone else decide?shook_17;1689869 wrote:Suh already stated his agent will pick his team. So that means whoever offers the most money will get suh
lol, yeah, I'm a bit hung over after last night, so watching the equal of a monkey throwing piles of shit and rubbing it all over itself is just the sort of thing that's gonna provide a lot of laughter today, I think.SportsAndLady;1689874 wrote:Iggy having a meltdown on his thread. Making me lol on this otherwise depressing Sunday.