Archive 2015 Browns Offseason Thread

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Apr 29, 2015 10:42pm

What if 12 and 19 turned into Mychael Kendricks, Sam Bradford, and 20 or a future 1st?

Lovejoy1984

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Apr 29, 2015 10:54pm

No.

If we trade the 12 and 19, and then turn around and trade it to the Eagles, better walk away with a kings ransom.

I'm don't want Bradford, I"m asking for Lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox, This years 1st, and Next years 1st.

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rydawg5

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Apr 29, 2015 11:06pm

Parker and Ray

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Lovejoy1984

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Apr 29, 2015 11:37pm

No thanks on Ray.

Already in the NFL Drug Program, plus a Toe injury, I'll pass.

lhslep134

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Apr 30, 2015 12:40am

I'm pretty damn confident that Farmer will not f*ck this up. This is the least anticipated draft for me that I can remember. Between the Cavs, early season Indians, decently new job, and the draft being in May instead of April, I just haven't really cared or thought about it but now that it's here I'm pretty excited to see what happens.

Commander of Awesome

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Apr 30, 2015 12:55am

Hoping for Shelton/Irving (12&19)
WR like Nelson Agular in the 2nd

If we trade both 1st for MM then I want Carl Davis in the 2nd.

If we must go wr I hope it's not for Parker/Perriman. Then get best NT left at 19, then Tomlinson (pwn guard) in the 2nd.

Go Browns!

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 8:52am

lhslep134;1725354 wrote:I'm pretty damn confident that Farmer will not f*ck this up.

That makes one of us. If he's feeling any pressure, whether real or perceived, from Haslam, I could see him making a panic move (i.e. Mariota).

I'd be fine with them dumping the late first for Bradford. I'm likely wrong but I still think Bradford will be a Brown by the end of this evening. I know Bradford wants to be with Shurmur again but he just doesn't seem to fit what Chip Kelly is trying to do there as much as Mariota does.

SportsAndLady

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Apr 30, 2015 8:52am

It's all media storyline bullshit but a lot of people are convinced the Browns will come away from this draft with Sam Bradford and the Iggles with Mariota.

We shall see.

I trust Farmer

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 8:54am

SportsAndLady;1725393 wrote:It's all media storyline bullshit but a lot of people are convinced the Browns will come away from this draft with Sam Bradford and the Iggles with Mariota.

We shall see.

I trust Farmer

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I don't know how much the "media storyline" plays into the Bradford to the Browns speculation. The Browns already offered #19 to the Rams for him. There's obviously some interest there. Or at least there was. Now Mariota getting to the Eagles is going to be a bit trickier.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/30/report-browns-think-they-can-get-sam-bradford-today/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 9:08am

Nice to see the idiots are out in full force. I'd like to see more than 3 games....

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Cardale-Jones-father-Pass-on-Mariota-take-my-son-in-2016-37034823/

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 9:37am

I'd be fine with this mock but I'd rather give up #19 than #12.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/silvas-2015-nfl-mock-draft-034000779--nfl.html

sleeper

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Apr 30, 2015 10:02am

BR1986FB;1725400 wrote:Nice to see the idiots are out in full force. I'd like to see more than 3 games....

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Cardale-Jones-father-Pass-on-Mariota-take-my-son-in-2016-37034823/

I'd much rather have Cardale than Mariota. Not even close actually.

sleeper

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Apr 30, 2015 10:03am

BR1986FB;1725403 wrote:I'd be fine with this mock but I'd rather give up #19 than #12.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/silvas-2015-nfl-mock-draft-034000779--nfl.html

I'll never understand the Bradford hype. He's not worth anything.

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 10:05am

sleeper;1725405 wrote:I'd much rather have Cardale than Mariota. Not even close actually.

I rest my case.

sleeper

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Apr 30, 2015 10:10am

BR1986FB;1725408 wrote:I rest my case.

Cardale vs. Mariota
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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 10:14am

sleeper;1725409 wrote:Cardale vs. Mariota
1 - 0

Who cares? THREE games. Jones "may" turn out to be a legit QB but nobody knows after THREE games. If he looks good this year I might lean that way but I'm very skittish of bringing in any OSU players unless they are an O-Lineman or a DB. Those seem to be the only positions that come out of OSU that do well at the next level.

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 10:14am

Doh......

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/4/30/8520691/the-browns-gave-free-draft-tickets-to-a-twitter-spambot

Automatik

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Apr 30, 2015 10:17am

BR1986FB;1725411 wrote:Who cares? THREE games. Jones "may" turn out to be a legit QB but nobody knows after THREE games. If he looks good this year I might lean that way but I'm very skittish of bringing in any OSU players unless they are an O-Lineman or a DB. Those seem to be the only positions that come out of OSU that do well at the next level.

Are you on the Mariota bangwagon now?

He could turn out to be ok, but no fucking way would I give up 2 first rounders to find out.

SportsAndLady

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Apr 30, 2015 10:18am

I honestly don't know what bandwagon BR is on lol one day he wants a QB no matter what, next day he's against taking Mariota.

Here's what I want...Mariota. Get him.

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sleeper

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Apr 30, 2015 10:19am

BR1986FB;1725411 wrote:Who cares? THREE games. Jones "may" turn out to be a legit QB but nobody knows after THREE games. If he looks good this year I might lean that way but I'm very skittish of bringing in any OSU players unless they are an O-Lineman or a DB. Those seem to be the only positions that come out of OSU that do well at the next level.

The 3 games just show he can win in a big time games under a lot of adversity and pressure. It's not like Cardale's 3 games were against scrub components and he played game manager; the guy literally carried the team(along with EZE) and put up big points against some of the toughest defenses in college. What has Mariota done in his career that even comes close to that?

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 10:23am

Automatik;1725415 wrote:Are you on the Mariota bangwagon now?

He could turn out to be ok, but no fucking way would I give up 2 first rounders to find out.

No, not at all. Selling the farm for Mariota either means Farmer is a) desperate or b) already has a guarantee from Haslam that Jimmy will stick with the current group and see things through, which I don't see with Haslam.

The biggest issue with grabbing Mariota, for me, is that "what if they don't get results in year 1?" Will Haslam be patient or will he fire the Farmer/Pettine group? If this happens, will the new group like Mariota? If they don't you wasted two 1st's (and likely more) for a QB that may not be around long.

That's why I'd rather them use the late 1st on Bradford.

Slobbering all over Cardale Jones' knob after 3 games shows nothing but being a blind homer. I'd love to see the kid pan out and be a legit option for the Browns but THREE games is not a larger enough sample size to be claiming him as some kind of savior.

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BR1986FB

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Apr 30, 2015 10:24am

SportsAndLady;1725416 wrote:I honestly don't know what bandwagon BR is on lol one day he wants a QB no matter what, next day he's against taking Mariota.

Here's what I want...Mariota. Get him.

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I want the QB but I want Bradford. Less cost/risk than selling the farm.

The only things that will piss me off is if they sell out for Mariota and if they stay put at #12 & #19 and I hear the words "Brashad Perriman" uttered in association with one of those picks.

Terry_Tate

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Apr 30, 2015 10:24am

BR1986FB;1725400 wrote:Nice to see the idiots are out in full force. I'd like to see more than 3 games....

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Cardale-Jones-father-Pass-on-Mariota-take-my-son-in-2016-37034823/

I'm not sure if you meant to quote another link but you must not know anything about Tyvis Powell to take that seriously, lol.

sleeper

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Apr 30, 2015 10:28am

BR1986FB;1725419 wrote:No, not at all. Selling the farm for Mariota either means Farmer is a) desperate or b) already has a guarantee from Haslam that Jimmy will still with the current group and see things through, which I don't see with Haslam.

The biggest issue with grabbing Mariota, for me, is that "what if they don't get results in year 1?" Will Haslam be patient or will he fire the Farmer/Pettine group? If this happens, will the new group like Mariota? If they don't you wasted two 1st's (and likely more) for a QB that may not be around long.

That's why I'd rather them use the late 1st on Bradford.

Slobbering all over Cardale Jones' knob after 3 games shows nothing but being a blind homer. I'd love to see the kid pan out and be a legit option for the Browns but THREE games is not a larger enough sample size to be claiming him as some kind of savior.

He's 6'5, 250lbs who made big time throws against some of the toughest defense in college football. Over the 3 games he started, he had a 61% completion rate, 5 TDs, 2 INTs and had longs of 44, 47, 50 all on being a 3rd string QB who got barely any reps all season. The guy is an NFL QB and he will prove it again next year when he leads his team to an undefeated season, winning another national championship and likely a Heisman.

Mariota? He's a 6'4 200lb guy who won a lifetime acheievement award Heisman who couldn't get it done one time at Oregon. This is the trash you want to lead the Browns? He sucks.

Automatik

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Apr 30, 2015 10:29am

Terry_Tate;1725421 wrote:I'm not sure if you meant to quote another link but you must not know anything about Tyvis Powell to take that seriously, lol.

I'm guessing the use of "my son", "lol", or his fucking handle "Fidel Ca$hflow" didn't make that clear. :laugh: