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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 12, 2015 11:53am
There is a basement you have to spend. Think it is like 89% of the cap over a 4 year period of 2013-2016.se-alum;1705274 wrote:Haslam says the Browns won't be big spenders in FA. Don't we have to spend most of the cap money?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 12, 2015 11:54am
"The key going forward is the floor more than the cap. The final eight years of the CBA are broken into four-year periods (2013-'16, 2017-'20) during which teams are required to spend up to 89 percent of the cap, with a guaranteed league-wide spend of 95 percent. If the individual clubs or league fail to hit those thresholds, the league/clubs pay the difference to the players."
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Feb 12, 2015 1:25pm
This. I might take either Mariota or Winston at 19 if they were available( they won't be).....but I want as many bodies as possible with the early round picks.sleeper;1705266 wrote:Neither Winston or Mariota is worth trading up for or drafting in the 1st round. I'd prefer to not draft a known rapist either, so Mariota or bust for me but only in the second round. I don't think this crop of QBs this year contains anything worth a first round pick.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 12, 2015 2:29pm
I agree Winston is more ready currently no doubt. But in two years I would rather have Mariotase-alum;1705263 wrote:I think Mariota will eventually be a good NFL QB, but it will take some time. Winston is definitely more ready right now to start on an NFL team, and it isn't even close.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Feb 12, 2015 2:51pm
lol backpedal
Classyposter58;1705050 wrote:Mariota is so much better than Winston it's crazy.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 12, 2015 3:52pm
One thing people under estimate about Winston is he is a hell of a leader. He might be a douche pos but his teammates loved him and played hard for him. I hate the guy but I truly think Winston will be a pretty damn good qb if his off the field issues don't catch up to him.
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se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 12, 2015 3:58pm
I don't see Mariota ever being better than Winston, as far as football goes. By all accounts Winston is a hard worker and has a good football IQ. If he stays out of trouble, I think he will be very good. The kid wins. If it weren't for his teammates fumbling all those times in the Rose Bowl, his numbers would've been incredible in that game. They were still as good as Mariota's. Winston was let down by his teammates.Classyposter58;1705317 wrote:I agree Winston is more ready currently no doubt. But in two years I would rather have Mariota
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 12, 2015 5:38pm
He is a better player and will become a better NFL playerAutomatik;1705322 wrote:lol backpedal
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Feb 12, 2015 6:38pm
If he was the better player he would be "more NFL ready," which he's not....and it's not really close.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 17, 2015 9:13pm
Browns unveiling new logo a week from today
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Feb 17, 2015 9:29pm
noted NFL draft guru Mayock tells Browns to NOT trade up....
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2015-nfl-draft-analyst-mike-mayock-says-browns-should-focus-on-receiver-right-tackle-instead-of-trading-up-for-quarterback-1.567397
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2015-nfl-draft-analyst-mike-mayock-says-browns-should-focus-on-receiver-right-tackle-instead-of-trading-up-for-quarterback-1.567397
....Could care less about a logo change....want a football team with a winning record.Browns unveiling new logo a week from today
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 18, 2015 11:15am
It is just an update of the elf logo with Manziel's face.lhslep134;1706240 wrote:Browns unveiling new logo a week from today
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 18, 2015 11:48am
You're so funny!!!!thavoice;1706325 wrote:It is just an update of the elf logo with Manziel's face.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Feb 18, 2015 11:56am
BIG if....huge red flags in his character....also doesn't seem to be the brightest guy out there.se-alum;1705333 wrote:I don't see Mariota ever being better than Winston, as far as football goes. By all accounts Winston is a hard worker and has a good football IQ. If he stays out of trouble, I think he will be very good. The kid wins. If it weren't for his teammates fumbling all those times in the Rose Bowl, his numbers would've been incredible in that game. They were still as good as Mariota's. Winston was let down by his teammates.
After the Manziel debacle, do not think he is worth the draft pick.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 18, 2015 12:02pm
I disagree that he's not worth the pick as a football player. But he's not worth the pick as an asset since we just wasted our 1st on one last year.wkfan;1706335 wrote:
After the Manziel debacle, do not think he is worth the draft pick.
Winston has a work ethic, Manziel doesn't.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 18, 2015 12:04pm
It doesn't matter though, all indications are he's going to go #1 to TB.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 18, 2015 12:14pm
You don't get offers from Stanford if you're dumb. He's immature, not stupid. It's been documented that Winston has a very high football IQ, and George Whitfield has compared him to Andrew Luck in that capacity.wkfan;1706335 wrote:BIG if....huge red flags in his character....also doesn't seem to be the brightest guy out there.
After the Manziel debacle, do not think he is worth the draft pick.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 18, 2015 2:55pm
George Whitfield, the guy who was waving brooms at Johnny football?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 18, 2015 9:14pm
May have misread, but think the bottom line on ESPN just said Pettine is looking for starting QB in FA or Draft.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 18, 2015 9:38pm
I'm just going to put this here. This is the guy's only tweet and it's from 8 days ago. I have no comment.
https://twitter.com/docjas05/status/565341654325166081
https://twitter.com/docjas05/status/565341654325166081
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 18, 2015 9:40pm
I don't get it.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 18, 2015 9:41pm
Neither do I.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 18, 2015 9:42pm
Possible leaked logo? I doubt it is but I have no idea what that logo is. When you combine that with the fact the guy directed the tweet at the Browns, I simply have no explanation.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 18, 2015 9:44pm
I saw it tooLaley23;1706441 wrote:May have misread, but think the bottom line on ESPN just said Pettine is looking for starting QB in FA or Draft.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 18, 2015 9:52pm
Just saw it.Laley23;1706441 wrote:May have misread, but think the bottom line on ESPN just said Pettine is looking for starting QB in FA or Draft.