 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Feb 5, 2015 7:50pm
                            
                        
                                I want them to leave this FA/Draft with:
an offensive weapon
difference making pass rusher
DEVASTATING RUN BLOCKING RG
RT competition
2 new Dline players
QB
                        an offensive weapon
difference making pass rusher
DEVASTATING RUN BLOCKING RG
RT competition
2 new Dline players
QB
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Feb 7, 2015 10:25am
                            
                        
                                I know its dawgs by nature, but this guy is pretty much spot on.  La Confora and Shanny can both go fuck themselves.  If you don't want to read the whole thing, just read the last paragraph.
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/2/6/7994529/coming-to-the-defense-of-the-cleveland-browns
                        http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/2/6/7994529/coming-to-the-defense-of-the-cleveland-browns
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Feb 7, 2015 2:15pm
                            
                        
                                Good point, it was def tl;dr but I read the last few paragraphs. Fuck lafailtora and Shanny.
                            
                        lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Feb 7, 2015 2:21pm
                            
                        like_that;1703972 wrote:I know its dawgs by nature, but this guy is pretty much spot on. La Confora and Shanny can both go fuck themselves. If you don't want to read the whole thing, just read the last paragraph.
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/2/6/7994529/coming-to-the-defense-of-the-cleveland-browns
That was essentially a summation of what the non doom-and-gloom people on here have been saying. Thanks for posting. I know I'm not alone in that I'm definitely optimistic about our future with Farmer and Pettine.
 
                                                                se-alum
                                                                            
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                                Feb 7, 2015 9:41pm
                            
                        
                                I'll flip my lid if the Browns take Funchess. He's a less talented version of Braylon Edwards.
                            
                         
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Feb 8, 2015 7:49pm
                            
                        
                                A familiar name is mentioned at the beginning of the video.  Let's pretend Farmer is  shitty GM though, SMH.
http://at.nfl.com/JF6cEls
                        http://at.nfl.com/JF6cEls
 
                                                                shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 1:40pm
                            
                        
                                http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469729/article/cleveland-browns-zeroing-in-on-marcus-mariota
Thoughts if we were to trade up?
What would it take both firsts this year and next year?
                        Thoughts if we were to trade up?
What would it take both firsts this year and next year?
 
                                                                HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 1:50pm
                            
                        Until someone actually builds a team that wins, I'm not going to pretend they are any good. I think Farmer deserves some time to right the ship, but that time is not without bounds.Let's pretend Farmer is shitty GM though, SMH.
 
                                                                HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 1:53pm
                            
                        My thoughts would be about how nauseous I would feel.Thoughts if we were to trade up?
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 3:26pm
                            
                        It would take that plus. Also, not sure why TB or Titans would do the deal. Just media BS trying to get clicks. Not going to happen.shook_17;1704735 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469729/article/cleveland-browns-zeroing-in-on-marcus-mariota
Thoughts if we were to trade up?
What would it take both firsts this year and next year?
If you're the browns and have Mike Glennon as your starting QB, you giving up the opportunity to draft a stud QB for 2 1sts? Would colts give up ability to draft Andrew Luck? Put yourself in their shoes. I would lol at the browns for even offering 2 1st this year in a down draft for the #1 pick.
 
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 4:19pm
                            
                        From 12 to 1, would take at a minimum, more the Rams got for RG3, who got 3 #1s, and 1 #2.shook_17;1704735 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469729/article/cleveland-browns-zeroing-in-on-marcus-mariota
Thoughts if we were to trade up?
What would it take both firsts this year and next year?
So, I'd have to imagine would take 4 #1s, and 3rd or 4th pick.
In other words.....HELL NO
 
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 4:20pm
                            
                        This is true....but Luck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariotta.Commander of Awesome;1704776 wrote:It would take that plus. Also, not sure why TB or Titans would do the deal. Just media BS trying to get clicks. Not going to happen.
If you're the browns and have Mike Glennon as your starting QB, you giving up the opportunity to draft a stud QB for 2 1sts? Would colts give up ability to draft Andrew Luck? Put yourself in their shoes. I would lol at the browns for even offering 2 1st this year in a down draft for the #1 pick.
So no, the Colts wouldn't do that, but the Buccanneers who may not be sold on either QB.....getting 2 #1s might be solid to build the depth, and if QB play still blows, will be near the top next year as well.
 
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                                Feb 10, 2015 4:26pm
                            
                        
                                If they trade to 1, take Winston. I haven't seen anything that makes me think  Marriota will be good.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Feb 10, 2015 4:31pm
                            
                        Agreed. Plus Winston and Manzel will get along like peas and carrots.....Laley23;1704796 wrote:If they trade to 1, take Winston. I haven't seen anything that makes me think Marriota will be good.
Not sure though I would give up much to get Winston. I know they say he is the most NFL ready but I am not so sure he will be taht good. Seems to turn the ball over way too much.
 
                                                                HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 7:54am
                            
                        
                                we need players at multiple positions....please don't trade picks to "move up" on what's available in this draft.
                            
                         
                                                                Classyposter58
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 1:01pm
                            
                        Mariota is so much better than Winston it's crazy. Sorry but Jameis threw more interceptions on passes 15+ yards than any other BCS conference QB. The guy had 25 TD's and 18 INT's this season for christ sakeLaley23;1704796 wrote:If they trade to 1, take Winston. I haven't seen anything that makes me think Marriota will be good.
 
                                                                Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 1:04pm
                            
                        
                                True. But Winston also was allowed to audible and ran an offense that at least sets up him to understand an NFL system. Mariota didn't audible, ran plays that were done by hand signal or key words, he will be need time to understand how to stand and read defenses and be able to audible and understand lingo.
                            
                         
                                                                Automatik
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 1:57pm
                            
                        You couldn't be more wrong.Classyposter58;1705050 wrote:Mariota is so much better than Winston it's crazy. Sorry but Jameis threw more interceptions on passes 15+ yards than any other BCS conference QB. The guy had 25 TD's and 18 INT's this season for christ sake
Ask any scout worth a fuck who is more "NFL ready."
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 2:05pm
                            
                        It's classy. nuff said.Automatik;1705070 wrote:You couldn't be more wrong.
Ask any scout worth a fuck who is more "NFL ready."
                                        
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                                Feb 11, 2015 3:17pm
                            
                        Yeah, wait what?Classyposter58;1705050 wrote:Mariota is so much better than Winston it's crazy.
 
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 5:09pm
                            
                        
                                Kiper released his Mock
Notables...
1.) Jameis
6.) Mariota
12.) Devante Parker
18.) Devin Smith- KC
19.)Eddie Goldman, DT FSU
21.) Vic Beasley-
22.) Landon Collins-
26.) Maxx Williams
                        Notables...
1.) Jameis
6.) Mariota
12.) Devante Parker
18.) Devin Smith- KC
19.)Eddie Goldman, DT FSU
21.) Vic Beasley-
22.) Landon Collins-
26.) Maxx Williams
 
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                                Feb 11, 2015 6:01pm
                            
                        
                                Hahahaha if you think Mariota is better than Winston, you are high as balls. 
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                                                                Classyposter58
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 6:18pm
                            
                        Don't have to. I watched enough football this year and Winston was awful against any D worth a damn. Gators secondary pretty much had an interception party against him. He may be more ready because of the offense he ran but give me Mariota all dayAutomatik;1705070 wrote:You couldn't be more wrong.
Ask any scout worth a fuck who is more "NFL ready."
 
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                                Feb 11, 2015 6:18pm
                            
                        Wouldn't QQ one bit.HighRoller74;1705101 wrote:Kiper released his Mock
Notables...
1.) Jameis
6.) Mariota
12.) Devante Parker
18.) Devin Smith- KC
19.)Eddie Goldman, DT FSU
21.) Vic Beasley-
22.) Landon Collins-
26.) Maxx Williams
 
                                                                Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Feb 11, 2015 6:20pm
                            
                        What did Mariota do against the only defense he played last year?Classyposter58;1705116 wrote:Don't have to. I watched enough football this year and Winston was awful against any D worth a damn. Gators secondary pretty much had an interception party against him. He may be more ready because of the offense he ran but give me Mariota all day