SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 6, 2015 12:25pm
Agree with sleeper that cardale jones is the real deal. He's a prototypical NFL QB. I'm not saying that as gospel as its only been three games. But just my opinion. He has a cannon for an arm, perfect size, can take a hit, and is crazy accurate for being so big. First QB taken off the board, which usually equates to the #1 overall pick.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 6, 2015 12:32pm
which means the browns would have to finish with 1-3 wins this year to get the first pick.
Can it happen? They won 7 last year and could get to that mark this season. Not sure I am seeing an epic bad season unless McCown and Manzel just totally unravel.
Can it happen? They won 7 last year and could get to that mark this season. Not sure I am seeing an epic bad season unless McCown and Manzel just totally unravel.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 12:37pm
Don't worry about the "1-3 wins." The Browns will take care of that. I'm just not sold on Cardale Jones being their guy. That could change but it's WAY too early on him.thavoice;1726937 wrote:which means the browns would have to finish with 1-3 wins this year to get the first pick.
Can it happen? They won 7 last year and could get to that mark this season. Not sure I am seeing an epic bad season unless McCown and Manzel just totally unravel.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 12:39pm
And no one on here forgets your "keep throwing 'ALL Ohio State players are the best on the planet and the Browns should draft them' shit against the wall until it eventually sticks" technique either.sleeper;1726932 wrote:I didn't stutter. Cardale is winning multiple Super Bowls in his NFL career. But yeah keep thinking Manziel is going to win anything in the league. No one on here forgets you slobbering over Weeden and Quinn and then Manziel; how'd that work out?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 12:40pm
I think you have me confused with someone else because I don't do that. What OSU player was I hyping up in this draft? Zero.BR1986FB;1726942 wrote:And no one on here forgets your "keep throwing 'ALL Ohio State players are the best on the planet and the Browns should draft them' shit against the wall until it eventually sticks" technique either.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 12:40pm
I agree he has the size and a cannon for an arm. Mechanics need a lot of work though. I'm sure with the right coaching that can be corrected. It's not like he has Tebow-like mechanics which are almost impossible to fix.SportsAndLady;1726936 wrote:Agree with sleeper that cardale jones is the real deal. He's a prototypical NFL QB. I'm not saying that as gospel as its only been three games. But just my opinion. He has a cannon for an arm, perfect size, can take a hit, and is crazy accurate for being so big. First QB taken off the board, which usually equates to the #1 overall pick.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 12:42pm
No, I'm not. You were drying humping that worthless POS Troy Smith as the "savior" of the Browns in the past.sleeper;1726944 wrote:I think you have me confused with someone else because I don't do that. What OSU player was I hyping up in this draft? Zero.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 12:43pm
T. Smith is still better than Manziel; not sure why you so mad.BR1986FB;1726945 wrote:No, I'm not. You were drying humping that worthless POS Troy Smith as the "savior" of the Browns in the past.
T. Smith 78.5 career QB rating. But yeah, worthless.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 12:45pm
Guess that explains why Smith is on an NFL roster. Oh yeah, he isn't....sleeper;1726946 wrote:T. Smith is still better than Manziel; not sure why you so mad.
T. Smith 78.5 career QB rating. But yeah, worthless.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 12:47pm
Manziel will join him soon enough.BR1986FB;1726947 wrote:Guess that explains why Smith is on an NFL roster. Oh yeah, he isn't....
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
May 6, 2015 1:36pm
Just FYI ....on the discussion on OSU QB's in the NFL.... Mike Tomczak had a 16 year career, including leading the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl in 1996.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 1:39pm
Yeah, I'm aware of Tomczak playing for OSU but he's the exception, not the norm, when discussing OSU QB's.HitsRus;1726960 wrote:Just FYI ....on the discussion on OSU QB's in the NFL.... Mike Tomczak had a 16 year career, including leading the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl in 1996.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 6, 2015 1:40pm
That was Neil O'Donnell. Tomczak was the backup.HitsRus;1726960 wrote:Just FYI ....on the discussion on OSU QB's in the NFL.... Mike Tomczak had a 16 year career, including leading the Pittsburgh Steelers to the Super Bowl in 1996.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 1:42pm
BR1986FB;1726964 wrote:Yeah, I'm aware of Tomczak playing for OSU but he's the exception, not the norm, when discussing OSU QB's.
Couldn't you say this about pretty much every and any school? LOL.
Your hate for OSU is apparent and comical.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 1:47pm
No, I'm an OSU fan. I just can't stand blind homers like you who think the players are the best on the planet and can do no wrong. You have no objectivity when it comes to Ohio State.sleeper;1726968 wrote:Couldn't you say this about pretty much every and any school? LOL.
Your hate for OSU is apparent and comical.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 2:04pm
You didn't answer my question. What schools consistently produce quality QBs? USC? LOLBR1986FB;1726971 wrote:No, I'm an OSU fan. I just can't stand blind homers like you who think the players are the best on the planet and can do no wrong. You have no objectivity when it comes to Ohio State.
The reality is no school consistently places QBs in the NFL but apparently OSU is the only who actually gets called out on it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 2:09pm
Miamisleeper;1726980 wrote:You didn't answer my question. What schools consistently produce quality QBs? USC? LOL
The reality is no school consistently places QBs in the NFL but apparently OSU is the only who actually gets called out on it.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 6, 2015 2:15pm
No.BR1986FB;1726983 wrote:Miami
Miami hasn't had a QB drafted since 2003. And no Miami QB is currently on an NFL roster.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 6, 2015 2:15pm
You're joking, right?BR1986FB;1726983 wrote:Miami
It's 2015.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 6, 2015 2:22pm
I literally lol'dAutomatik;1726986 wrote:You're joking, right?
It's 2015.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 6, 2015 2:34pm
Maybe he meant Miami, OH? Lol
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 6, 2015 2:40pm
???????????BR1986FB;1726983 wrote:Miami
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
May 6, 2015 2:47pm
Cardale Jones reminds me of JaMarcus Russell.SportsAndLady;1726936 wrote:Agree with sleeper that cardale jones is the real deal. He's a prototypical NFL QB. I'm not saying that as gospel as its only been three games. But just my opinion. He has a cannon for an arm, perfect size, can take a hit, and is crazy accurate for being so big. First QB taken off the board, which usually equates to the #1 overall pick.
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He was a huge get at #1, right?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 6, 2015 2:55pm
Is every fat African American QB that's coming out in the draft going to be compared to Jamarcus Russell from now on? Jones still doesn't have the sample size to really be compared to any QB or to be declared a "sure thing" (see sleeper) at this point.MontyBrunswick;1727001 wrote:Cardale Jones reminds me of JaMarcus Russell.
He was a huge get at #1, right?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 6, 2015 3:04pm
Maybe had he gone to Miami....BR1986FB;1727005 wrote:Is every fat African American QB that's coming out in the draft going to be compared to Jamarcus Russell from now on? Jones still doesn't have the sample size to really be compared to any QB or to be declared a "sure thing" (see sleeper) at this point.