Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 11, 2014 11:30am
Cueto
Bailey
Leake
Cingrani
TBD
They could obviously still move Leake and Cueto too, as they are free agents.
Bailey
Leake
Cingrani
TBD
They could obviously still move Leake and Cueto too, as they are free agents.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 11, 2014 11:55am
Nice pickups for Simon. Ratings as of last season.
SS Eugenio Suarez (#12 rated prospect)
P Jonothan Crawford (#4 rated prospect, 2012 first rounder)
SS Eugenio Suarez (#12 rated prospect)
P Jonothan Crawford (#4 rated prospect, 2012 first rounder)
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 11, 2014 11:58am
Ken Rosenthal ‏@ken_Rosenthal 4m4 minutes ago
Latos going to #Marlins for DeSclafani and Chad Wallach.
Latos going to #Marlins for DeSclafani and Chad Wallach.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 11, 2014 12:23pm
I think better hitting takes alot of those BP losses out of the picture. Because they couldnt hit themselves outta wet paper bag it kept so many games close and very little margin for error for the BP.Azubuike24;1685160 wrote:The Reds problem last year really wasn't hitting, as bad as it was. Their bullpen lost them at least a dozen games...
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 11, 2014 12:25pm
Good to move Simon. As great as he stepped up last year I believe this is the best he will ever be for trade value.
Latos is probably a good move as he has been hurt alot.
Now if they get rid of JC as well.....now that isnt a good deal but he will command too much.
Latos is probably a good move as he has been hurt alot.
Now if they get rid of JC as well.....now that isnt a good deal but he will command too much.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 11, 2014 1:15pm
Cueto is amazing please don't trade him....
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 11, 2014 1:18pm
True.Rotinaj;1685221 wrote:Cueto is amazing please don't trade him....
But what he can command will be outrageous especially if he pitches well again this season
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 11, 2014 1:32pm
I dont think Cueto or Bruce will be on the opening day roster, chapman may be gone as well
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 11, 2014 1:53pm
I would hold on to Cueto until the trade deadline, unless you get some big time prospects for him right now.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 18, 2015 10:55am
A really good 5 min read on Poland native/resident John Hirschbeck
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/106330268/mlb-umpire-john-hirschbeck-survival-guide-ald
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/106330268/mlb-umpire-john-hirschbeck-survival-guide-ald
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 19, 2015 11:02am
Boras did it again.
When he seems boxed in he goes to the Nationals and they bail him out.
This will be just like Werth deal a few years ago that was such a disaster.
The only thing I am really surprised about is that the deal for Scherzer is being reported at only 7 years. No dollars have leaked out yet, but I suspect probably $200 million over 7 years knowing Boras.
When he seems boxed in he goes to the Nationals and they bail him out.
This will be just like Werth deal a few years ago that was such a disaster.
The only thing I am really surprised about is that the deal for Scherzer is being reported at only 7 years. No dollars have leaked out yet, but I suspect probably $200 million over 7 years knowing Boras.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 19, 2015 11:15am
Damn....going all in
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 19, 2015 11:16am
Strasburg
Scherzer
Fister
Zimmerman
Gonzalez
Damn
Scherzer
Fister
Zimmerman
Gonzalez
Damn
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 19, 2015 11:20am
Reported 180 or so....IggyPride00;1697823 wrote:Boras did it again.
When he seems boxed in he goes to the Nationals and they bail him out.
This will be just like Werth deal a few years ago that was such a disaster.
The only thing I am really surprised about is that the deal for Scherzer is being reported at only 7 years. No dollars have leaked out yet, but I suspect probably $200 million over 7 years knowing Boras.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 19, 2015 11:24am
Reports are they might have to trade Desmond and or Zimmerman to make the $$$ work.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 19, 2015 11:42am
I'm not sure where reality plays into the conversation for you, so I'm just going to set this here http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/51375/remember-the-bad-jayson-werth-contractIggyPride00;1697823 wrote:
This will be just like Werth deal a few years ago that was such a disaster.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 19, 2015 12:17pm
ESPn saying 7/$210 million. That would sound about right as Kershaw is the current highest paid pitcher at $30 million a year. I bet Scherzer wanted to at least tie him in average annual salary.thavoice;1697836 wrote:Reported 180 or so....
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 19, 2015 12:24pm
They were reporting 180 this morning but anyways.....IggyPride00;1697862 wrote:ESPn saying 7/$210 million. That would sound about right as Kershaw is the current highest paid pitcher at $30 million a year. I bet Scherzer wanted to at least tie him in average annual salary.
Way too much money for a guy who plays 35 games. Granted, I mean, granite, a great pitcher can put you in every game he pitches but still....
Reds fans better enjoy cueto....as he isn't going to be around long.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 19, 2015 12:31pm
It's getting to the point of being almost a $1 million a start. Considering those guys usually go 6-7 innings that is like a $150,000 an inning on a 7 inning start, or $50,000 an out.thavoice;1697866 wrote:They were reporting 180 this morning but anyways.....
Way too much money for a guy who plays 35 games. Granted, I mean, granite, a great pitcher can put you in every game he pitches but still....
Reds fans better enjoy cueto....as he isn't going to be around long.
That is insane.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 19, 2015 12:34pm
I bet they don't trade Zimmerman....if someone goes it'll be Desmond.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 19, 2015 12:45pm
Strasburg becomes completely unsignable after this deal. Boras is going to be looking to totally break the bank.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 19, 2015 1:07pm
Scherzer's deal is $15M over 14 years
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 19, 2015 1:15pm
Yeah, the Nats made a great move here. Sign him for 7 years playing, but pay for 14 years. Essentially cutting his salary in half. Might hurt having that much money going to nothing at the end, but gives them a pretty sizeable window to win now.
Always thought more teams should do this.
Always thought more teams should do this.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 19, 2015 1:28pm
I will say the Tigers positioned themselves pretty well to let Max go.
Price
Verlander
Sanchez
Simon
Greene
Pretty damn good rotation regardless, combined with a good lineup this should be a playoff team yet again. Hopefully Verlander gets it going again though, if he does then Detroit becomes the AL front runner probably
Price
Verlander
Sanchez
Simon
Greene
Pretty damn good rotation regardless, combined with a good lineup this should be a playoff team yet again. Hopefully Verlander gets it going again though, if he does then Detroit becomes the AL front runner probably
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 19, 2015 1:41pm
Tigers suck. Top 26 team at best.