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jmog

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Nov 24, 2014 11:26 AM
Footwedge;1677753 wrote:English please. I don't understand jibberish.
Coming from your absolute abortion of a quoted post above I wouldn't comment on others "jibberish".
Nov 24, 2014 11:26am
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BR1986FB

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Nov 24, 2014 11:26 AM
Footwedge;1677776 wrote:It's common sense. I have no sources...it's simply common sense. You mean to tell me than Shanahan's ingenious play designs with wide open receivers all over the field being missed isn't pissing him off?

Come on man... I guarantee you that Shanahan and Loggins (sp) has just about had it up to here with Kojak.
So you're assuming? Hmmmmm......
Nov 24, 2014 11:26am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:31 AM
jmog;1677770 wrote:You didn't answer the question. Do you believe Manziel will be the best scrambling qb of all time? Simple question, yes or no.
I think he will be a great scrambler and might rival Tarkenton, by far and away the best scrambler the NFL has ever seen. Manziel ran for about 2500 yards in college in the SEC. That's pretty fuggin good. To make a ridiculous claim that RGIII or even Wilson being better is a farce.

But that's just part of the equation. His passing will be miles ahead of Hoyer...even with rookie mistakes
Nov 24, 2014 11:31am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:32 AM
BR1986FB;1677778 wrote:So you're assuming? Hmmmmm......
It's common sense. COMMON SENSE. You were pretty pissed off at what you saw yesterday. How do you think Shanahan is feeling? Use your brain.
Nov 24, 2014 11:32am
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jmog

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Nov 24, 2014 11:34 AM
Footwedge;1677782 wrote:I think he will be a great scrambler and might rival Tarkenton, by far and away the best scrambler the NFL has ever seen. Manziel ran for about 2500 yards in college in the SEC. That's pretty fuggin good. To make a ridiculous claim that RGIII or even Wilson being better is a farce.

But that's just part of the equation. His passing will be miles ahead of Hoyer...even with rookie mistakes
Tarkenton averaged about 15 yards rushing per game over his career. Still think Johnny is getting 75+?
Nov 24, 2014 11:34am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:34 AM
jmog;1677777 wrote:Coming from your absolute abortion of a quoted post above I wouldn't comment on others "jibberish".
Now 'splain to me how Manziel will be a shitty scrambler. LMAO.
Nov 24, 2014 11:34am
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DeyDurkie5

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Nov 24, 2014 11:38 AM
Guys footwedge can't even figure out paypal, I highly doubt he knows anything about football
Nov 24, 2014 11:38am
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Al Bundy

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Nov 24, 2014 11:38 AM
Footwedge;1677782 wrote:I think he will be a great scrambler and might rival Tarkenton, by far and away the best scrambler the NFL has ever seen.
QB running yards

Vick 6,006
Cunningham 4,928
Young 4,239
Tarkenton 3,674
Nov 24, 2014 11:38am
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BR1986FB

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Nov 24, 2014 11:39 AM
Al Bundy;1677792 wrote:QB running yards

Vick 6,006
Cunningham 4,928
Young 4,239
Tarkenton 3,674
The downward spiral continues.....
Nov 24, 2014 11:39am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:41 AM
jmog;1677787 wrote:Tarkenton averaged about 15 yards rushing per game over his career. Still think Johnny is getting 75+?
ZZZZzz.... get some new material. Manziel will move the sticks when he needs to. And I don't give a shit how many yards Frantic Fran gained per game. What he did was buy a ton of time with his feet which enabled him to make a ton of plays...so much that he is now in the top 5 in passing yards in the history of the NFL. That's what Manziel will do. And...for the record. Tarkington did not have a strong arm...at all. Manziel has a much stronger arm than Tarkington had.

Young people like you have never had the pleasure of seeing good quarterback play in Cleveland....that is why you get good wood watching the 23rd rated quarterback in the league.
Nov 24, 2014 11:41am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:43 AM
BR1986FB;1677793 wrote:The downward spiral continues.....
Idiot pills kicking in? Scramblng does NOT equate to yards gained. Buying time in the pocket is what a scrambling quarterback does. There was NO ONE better at that than Tark. NOBODY.
Nov 24, 2014 11:43am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:44 AM
Al Bundy;1677792 wrote:QB running yards

Vick 6,006
Cunningham 4,928
Young 4,239
Tarkenton 3,674
You're an idiot...see above.
Nov 24, 2014 11:44am
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DeyDurkie5

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Nov 24, 2014 11:45 AM
Footwedge;1677798 wrote:You're an idiot...see above.
He gave you stats. You are wrong. Not too mention, I'm taking Vick over old balls tarkenton any day of the way.
Nov 24, 2014 11:45am
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BR1986FB

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Nov 24, 2014 11:46 AM
Footwedge;1677794 wrote: Young people like you have never had the pleasure of seeing good quarterback play in Cleveland....that is why you get good wood watching the 23rd rated quarterback in the league.
The last very "good" QB play this franchise has seen was Brian Sipe and that was almost 35 years ago. Bernie was overrated by fans (was an average QB) and benefitted from a stellar running game. They are getting "wood" because the TEAM is WINNING.
Nov 24, 2014 11:46am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:46 AM
DeyDurkie5;1677791 wrote:Guys footwedge can't even figure out paypal, I highly doubt he knows anything about football
Did you get paid? I seriously doubt you would have paid me. The way you lied on these boards is truly disgusting.
Nov 24, 2014 11:46am
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DeyDurkie5

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Nov 24, 2014 11:47 AM
Footwedge;1677804 wrote:Did you get paid? I seriously doubt you would have paid me. The way you lied on these boards is truly disgusting.
Yes laley gave me the money you gave him because you couldn't figure out PayPal.
Nov 24, 2014 11:47am
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BR1986FB

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Nov 24, 2014 11:47 AM
Durkie would've paid you.
Nov 24, 2014 11:47am
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Al Bundy

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Nov 24, 2014 11:48 AM
Footwedge;1677797 wrote: Scramblng does NOT equate to yards gained.
So you want someone to run around and not gain any yards as a result of it?
Nov 24, 2014 11:48am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:48 AM
BR1986FB;1677802 wrote:The last very "good" QB play this franchise has seen was Brian Sipe and that was almost 35 years ago. Bernie was overrated by fans (was an average QB) and benefitted from a stellar running game. They are getting "wood" because the TEAM is WINNING.
You are wrong. Kosar was a damn good quarterback for this franchise. Not a hall of famer, but damn good. Sure he had a cast. But that guy helped the team to 3 straight championship games.
Nov 24, 2014 11:48am
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Nov 24, 2014 11:48 AM
DeyDurkie5;1677805 wrote:you couldn't figure out PayPal.
Hilarious, but 100% unsurprising considering how stupid Failwedge is.
Nov 24, 2014 11:48am
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DeyDurkie5

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Nov 24, 2014 11:48 AM
BR1986FB;1677806 wrote:Durkie would've paid you.
Not only does he assume the Browns would be better with manziel, he assumes I won't pay up. Classic
Nov 24, 2014 11:48am
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thavoice

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Nov 24, 2014 11:49 AM
Footwedge;1677808 wrote:You are wrong. Kosar was a damn good quarterback for this franchise. Not a hall of famer, but damn good. Sure he had a cast. But that guy helped the team to 3 straight championship games.
True,
Kosar was pretty damned good, but he like so many, had to leave Clev to get a championship. If it werent for The Fumble and The Drive......Kosar very well could have at least one SB under his belt for the franchise.
Nov 24, 2014 11:49am
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Al Bundy

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Nov 24, 2014 11:50 AM
Footwedge;1677808 wrote:You are wrong. Kosar was a damn good quarterback for this franchise. Not a hall of famer, but damn good. Sure he had a cast. But that guy helped the team to 3 straight championship games.
They didn't go to 3 straight championship games...they went following the 86, 87, and 89 seasons
Nov 24, 2014 11:50am
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lhslep134

why so serious?

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Nov 24, 2014 11:52 AM
Al Bundy;1677812 wrote:They didn't go to 3 straight championship games...they went following the 86, 87, and 89 seasons
Senile codger gonna senile
Nov 24, 2014 11:52am
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Footwedge

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Nov 24, 2014 11:53 AM
Al Bundy;1677807 wrote:So you want someone to run around and not gain any yards as a result of it?
Again...you're an idiot. A scrambling quarterback does just that. He scrambles. Nobody was better at it than Tark. NOBODY. When you scramble, you buy time. When you buy time, people get open. When people get open, you complete more passes. When you complete more passes you win more football games.

In Tarkington's case, his feeble arm benefitted him so much that he now ranks in the top 5 in total passing yards in the history of the NFL. At one time, he held the record.

As an aside...my guess would be that Tark probably ran a 5.5 40. It doesn't matter.
Nov 24, 2014 11:53am