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Apr 16, 2015 11:18 AM
Commander of Awesome;1722038 wrote:

Love hates it in Cleveland and can't wait to bolt for LA. /BSPN
He was intentionally trying to injure Lebron there so he could be "The Man" in the playoffs. :rolleyes:
Apr 16, 2015 11:18am
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Apr 16, 2015 5:24 PM
Why would anyone on that team not like Delly? He throws a lob to every guy whenever he's near the rim! ha
Apr 16, 2015 5:24pm
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Apr 16, 2015 5:32 PM
I gotta admit, it was nice seeing Love be "The Man" last night having the offense run through him was nice to see. Obviously with LBJ and KI he likely won't be the guy. But would it hurt, to let him get in the low block, and let the offense run through him a little bit more.
Apr 16, 2015 5:32pm
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Apr 16, 2015 6:44 PM
HighRoller74;1722128 wrote:https://medium.com/the-cauldron/worst-to-first-my-journey-to-contention-4a5dd4ec0811

Good read from JR. Gives his thoughts on everything from the Midseason Trade to life in Cleveland.
Good read. I am glad he wrote that about Love, since nobody likes him and all. /espn
Apr 16, 2015 6:44pm
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Apr 16, 2015 6:51 PM
Its more likely that ESPN would pick up the part about not being that athletic, and playing like the old guy at the Y.
Apr 16, 2015 6:51pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:06 PM
That was a good read. Loved his comments on kyrie. He'll be the best at his position soon.
Apr 16, 2015 7:06pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:12 PM
SportsAndLady;1722150 wrote: He'll be the best at his position soon.
He doesn't have a position.

IMO he'll never ever be the top point guard because he's more scorer than facilitator. You can't be the best point guard without being an elite facilitator, which is why Lebron is a better "point guard" than Kyrie.

Kyrie could become a top 10, top 5 player but he can never be the best point guard because he's a positionless scorer.

I would take John Wall over Kyrie as a point guard but not as a basketball player. It might seem like semantics to you or others, but when comparing players by position and not in general you need to look at their position-specific traits (which is why Lebron is arguably the best player by position at the 1, 2, 3 and 4).
Apr 16, 2015 7:12pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:25 PM
Bill Simmons said the series will go 6 (it will be tied 2-2 at one point). Chad ford also said it will go 6 games.
Apr 16, 2015 7:25pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:27 PM
lhslep134;1722151 wrote:He doesn't have a position.

IMO he'll never ever be the top point guard because he's more scorer than facilitator. You can't be the best point guard without being an elite facilitator, which is why Lebron is a better "point guard" than Kyrie.

Kyrie could become a top 10, top 5 player but he can never be the best point guard because he's a positionless scorer.

I would take John Wall over Kyrie as a point guard but not as a basketball player. It might seem like semantics to you or others, but when comparing players by position and not in general you need to look at their position-specific traits (which is why Lebron is arguably the best player by position at the 1, 2, 3 and 4).
Ok.
Apr 16, 2015 7:27pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:32 PM
lhslep134;1722151 wrote:He doesn't have a position.

IMO he'll never ever be the top point guard because he's more scorer than facilitator. You can't be the best point guard without being an elite facilitator, which is why Lebron is a better "point guard" than Kyrie.

Kyrie could become a top 10, top 5 player but he can never be the best point guard because he's a positionless scorer.

I would take John Wall over Kyrie as a point guard but not as a basketball player. It might seem like semantics to you or others, but when comparing players by position and not in general you need to look at their position-specific traits (which is why Lebron is arguably the best player by position at the 1, 2, 3 and 4).
They were just talking about this on grantland basketball hour.
Apr 16, 2015 7:32pm
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Apr 16, 2015 7:47 PM
like_that;1722160 wrote:They were just talking about this on grantland basketball hour.
Because he doesn't lol. He's not a facilitator like CP3 or Wall but he's a better scorer than those guys. This is not a comparison of playing styles but rather a comparison of their positionless-ness: Irving reminds me of Harden. You could classify Harden as a shooting guard but he's too much a facilitator within the offense to be considered a classic 2. Irving and Harden are elite basketball talents that don't fit nicely into any true "position" so you need to surround them with guys to augment any relative "weaknesses" in their games.
Apr 16, 2015 7:47pm
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Apr 16, 2015 8:08 PM
like_that;1722156 wrote:Bill Simmons said the series will go 6 (it will be tied 2-2 at one point). Chad ford also said it will go 6 games.
I'll be completely shocked if it goes more than 5, and I'd put the odds of a sweep at 50/50.
Apr 16, 2015 8:08pm
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Apr 16, 2015 10:48 PM
Off topic: Lebron is really fucking funny in Trainwreck, and he talks Cleveland up a lot.
Apr 16, 2015 10:48pm
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Apr 16, 2015 10:49 PM
lhslep134;1722163 wrote:Because he doesn't lol. He's not a facilitator like CP3 or Wall but he's a better scorer than those guys. This is not a comparison of playing styles but rather a comparison of their positionless-ness: Irving reminds me of Harden. You could classify Harden as a shooting guard but he's too much a facilitator within the offense to be considered a classic 2. Irving and Harden are elite basketball talents that don't fit nicely into any true "position" so you need to surround them with guys to augment any relative "weaknesses" in their games.
Lol was wondering how many posts you could go without slobbin' on harden
Apr 16, 2015 10:49pm
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Apr 16, 2015 10:59 PM
Commander of Awesome;1722201 wrote:Lol was wondering how many posts you could go without slobbin' on harden
Would you disagree with the assessment of Kyrie and Harden as "traditional position"-less scorers? I doubt it
Apr 16, 2015 10:59pm
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Apr 16, 2015 10:59 PM
I consider Harden to be a classic 2.
Apr 16, 2015 10:59pm
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Apr 16, 2015 11:02 PM
GOONx19;1722206 wrote:I consider Harden to be a classic 2.
More often than not Harden is facilitating the offense. That's hardly a classic 2.
Apr 16, 2015 11:02pm
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Apr 16, 2015 11:12 PM
I understand your position. I just don't think a shooting guard has to be considered positionless just because he's multidimensional.
Apr 16, 2015 11:12pm
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Apr 16, 2015 11:15 PM
GOONx19;1722210 wrote:I understand your position. I just don't think a shooting guard has to be considered positionless just because he's multidimensional.
Agreed. Calling harden position less BC he gets ast is like calling love position less bc he shoots 3s, or kawhi position less bc he gets steals. Lbj is "position less" bc he can legit play 4 positions. He still clearly has a defined position, just pwns.
Apr 16, 2015 11:15pm
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Apr 17, 2015 8:23 AM
SportsAndLady;1722150 wrote:That was a good read. Loved his comments on kyrie. He'll be the best at his position soon.
What cracks me up is that an SB Nation feed came up on my FB wall about the Celtics and their "amazing head coach." Read some of the comments from Celts fans about how they were going to "take care of Cleveland because of their storied history" and that "Isiah Thomas is better than Kyrie Irving." Delusional mother effers if I've ever seen them.
Apr 17, 2015 8:23am
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Apr 17, 2015 8:50 AM
Not sure why they are so delusional based off two games we were trying to lose.
Apr 17, 2015 8:50am
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Apr 17, 2015 10:06 AM
Fly4Fun;1722247 wrote:Not sure why they are so delusional based off two games we were trying to lose.
Because Boston.
Apr 17, 2015 10:06am
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Apr 17, 2015 10:19 AM
Pick6;1722255 wrote:Because Boston.
Bingo. I was looking at the comments and just shaking my head. Yeah, there's a remote chance the Cavs could gag and lose that series but the guys posting on there made it sound like they were scrubs. One cat said "they only got 53 wins. With that roster they should've had more wins than Golden State." Dumbass apparently doesn't realize that a) it takes time to gel (see Miami in their first season together) and b) this team didn't take off until the additions of Mozgov, JR & Shump.
Apr 17, 2015 10:19am
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Apr 17, 2015 10:24 AM
If the Cavs lose a game against Boston I'd be worried. They aren't though. The games won't even be close.
Apr 17, 2015 10:24am