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Jun 30, 2015 2:03pm
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Jun 30, 2015 2:09pm
From Article:


14. Danny Green: 4 years, $48 million with Your Sacramento Kings! (Wishful thinking.)

What a crock of shit "journalism".
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Jun 30, 2015 2:10pm
It's not a "real" article.
Be warned: this is almost certainly completely wrong, the math almost assuredly does not add up and half of these contracts may not even be legal under salary cap rules. If you can ignore all of that, enjoy!
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Jun 30, 2015 2:11pm
wildcats20;1738026 wrote:It's not a "real" article.
Fair enough. Should have read so I would have known it was a total waste of time. Why even bother writing that?
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Jun 30, 2015 2:13pm
Some of them are legit, like Bron.

My guess is it was to get readers. Pretty sure it has the Mavs signing half the list.
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Jun 30, 2015 4:05pm
robj55;1737983 wrote:Thought I read Butler wants to go to the Lakers on a one year deal?
2 Problems with that.

1.) He's a RFA
2.) Cannot sign a 1 year or 2 year w/ Opt out to offer sheets.
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Jun 30, 2015 4:26pm
Lol butler to LA?

I live in Chicago and have never heard that. He's back in Chicago 100%.
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Jun 30, 2015 4:40pm
SportsAndLady;1738062 wrote:Lol butler to LA?

I live in Chicago and have never heard that. He's back in Chicago 100%.
There were actually reports toward the end of the finals that he was planning to turn down the Bulls max offer and was seeking a short deal.
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Jun 30, 2015 4:45pm
Definitely going to be an interesting FA period because a lot of players are going to take some risks on getting a bigger pay day by delaying signing a longer contract now.
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Jun 30, 2015 5:12pm
I lol'd

@JasonSchwartz: NBA free agency starts tonight. All available:

Rajon Rondo
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Kendrick Perkins

Just sayin.
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Jun 30, 2015 5:34pm
like_that;1738068 wrote:There were actually reports toward the end of the finals that he was planning to turn down the Bulls max offer and was seeking a short deal.
Since the Bulls offered the 5 year max Jimmy can't take less than 3 guaranteed years from any other team. Shorter, but not the short term 2 yr guaranteed/3rd yr player option other players are seeking.
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Jun 30, 2015 5:36pm
lhslep134;1738081 wrote:Since the Bulls offered the 5 year max Jimmy can't take less than 3 guaranteed years from any other team. Shorter, but not the short term 2 yr guaranteed/3rd yr player option other players are seeking.
Why is that? Why can't the Cavs do this with Lebron and Love?
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Jun 30, 2015 6:16pm
like_that;1738083 wrote:Why is that? Why can't the Cavs do this with Lebron and Love?
Not sure exactly, it's in the CBA. This is from Zach Lowe
The only question is whether the Warriors will wait for Green to draw an offer on the market and then match it. That brings the risk of Green signing a shorter Chandler Parsons–style offer sheet — a deal that carries just two guaranteed seasons, plus a player option. The Spurs and Bulls can sidestep that pitfall by hitting Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler, respectively, with “maximum qualifying offers” — ironclad five-year max deals, with no options for either side. When an incumbent team takes that step, any rival has to offer at least three fully guaranteed seasons, which would torpedo a Parsons-style plan.

But teams can use that weapon only with first-round picks, per cap experts. Green is a second-round pick, and that distinction robs Golden State of a crucial tool.
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Jun 30, 2015 6:19pm
like_that;1738083 wrote:Why is that? Why can't the Cavs do this with Lebron and Love?
Not sure precisely, but it's in the CBA. This is from a Zach Lowe article https://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-nba-finalists-how-to-make-a-sequel/
The only question is whether the Warriors will wait for Green to draw an offer on the market and then match it. That brings the risk of Green signing a shorter Chandler Parsons–style offer sheet — a deal that carries just two guaranteed seasons, plus a player option. The Spurs and Bulls can sidestep that pitfall by hitting Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler, respectively, with “maximum qualifying offers” — ironclad five-year max deals, with no options for either side. When an incumbent team takes that step, any rival has to offer at least three fully guaranteed seasons, which would torpedo a Parsons-style plan.

But teams can use that weapon only with first-round picks, per cap experts. Green is a second-round pick, and that distinction robs Golden State of a crucial tool.
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Jun 30, 2015 9:23pm
like_that;1738083 wrote:Why is that? Why can't the Cavs do this with Lebron and Love?
Restricted versus unrestricted
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Jun 30, 2015 9:36pm
Azubuike24;1737997 wrote:...and there are 2 players I'd potentially leave to coach. LeBron James and Anthony Davis. He turned down both...that says a lot.
He didn't turn down lbj. Lbj wasn't a cav when he was offered job. And no the cavs didn't know at that point either.
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Jun 30, 2015 10:11pm
superman;1738107 wrote:Restricted versus unrestricted
Derp on me.
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Jul 1, 2015 12:09am
Anthony Davis and Leonard have both agreed to Max deals already.

Davis 5 years/$145m. He's the first guy to cash in on the new cap.
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Jul 1, 2015 7:51am
robj55;1737983 wrote:Thought I read Butler wants to go to the Lakers on a one year deal?
He can't, Bulls put a max qualifying offer sheet on him for 3 years and no options. Basically he plays for the Bulls or no one next year. Then the year after than he can go wherever he wants. Right now he's just got to decide (like Greg Monroe did) whether he's willing to take a chance on himself and sign for 1 year and low guaranteed money to free himself up for a big payday and what we supposedly really wants next year.
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Jul 1, 2015 10:18am
Dragic gets 5 years, $90M from Miami, not a max deal.
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Jul 1, 2015 10:40am
wildcats20;1738146 wrote:Dragic gets 5 years, $90M from Miami, not a max deal.
That is a deal that looks good for both sides to me. Rarely do you see that in the NBA nowadays.
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Jul 1, 2015 10:57am
wildcats20;1738146 wrote:Dragic gets 5 years, $90M from Miami, not a max deal.
That's what Kyrie signed right?
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Jul 1, 2015 11:21am
Commander of Awesome;1738152 wrote:That's what Kyrie signed right?
No idea.

Dragic's max was 5 years, $108M.
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Jul 1, 2015 11:23am
HighRoller74;1738125 wrote:Anthony Davis and Leonard have both agreed to Max deals already.

Davis 5 years/$145m. He's the first guy to cash in on the new cap.
Really not sold on Leonard. I think the Spurs will regret that down the line.
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Jul 1, 2015 11:26am
sleeper;1738165 wrote:Really not sold on Leonard. I think the Spurs will regret that down the line.
You serious? I think he's a stud. And the Spurs are the perfect team for him. Pop will make it look like a bargain.