SportsAndLady;1724357 wrote:Thavoice is a straight moron. Basically him and mike golic are the only two people in the world outside of Boston who thinks the play wasn't dirty by Olynyk. He's a piece of shit and should get 10 games minimum for a move that will side line an NBA superstar during the most important part of the NBA season.


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thavoice;1724356 wrote:Not really. At times I really troll on the browns and such.

I heard about it and as I said before, I expected to see a dirty play when I was watching this morning and I personally didnt.
I understand everyone has their own view of what happens most times and some times their own personal rooting interest can sway their thoughts.

On my two hour drive this AM and over coffee I watched/listened for well over 2 hours. The poll was highly in favor of it being dirty, but most of the so called experts didnt think so.

Obviously most of you saw something diff than myself and that is fine.

Pick6;1724359 wrote:I can say JR Smith's punch was dirty as hell and intentional (maybe not in the face, but definitely intentional). My rooting interest didn't affect my opinion on that.

thavoice;1724356 wrote:
I heard about it and as I said before, I expected to see a dirty play when I was watching this morning and I personally didnt.

thavoice;1724358 wrote:Their NBA guy Bruce Bowen didnt think it was dirty.

lhslep134;1724362 wrote:So which part of what Olynyk did was clean? Just because he may not have been trying to specifically dislocate the shoulder doesn't make the play any less dirty or Olynyk any less guilty for toeing the line between being overly physical and intentionally harming someone

thavoice;1724364 wrote:I just a guy holding onto Love's arm and not letting him get away.

like_that;1724370 wrote:Anybody who is familiar with mma or wrestling knows it was an intentional move. He had his arm over loves (like a wizzer) and grabbed loves wrist with his other hand. With that hold he turned his hip down onto him brining pressure on the shoulder. That's a wrestling move not a basketball move. They weren't even near the ball. I am not going to say he tried to injure him, but it sure as hell was reckless and dirty. Quit being a dumbass thavoice. I listens to mike and Mike this morning and if you actually listened they both said it was a reckless play.

As auto said, quit jerking off to being a contrarian. We get it, you don't like Cleveland and your life happiness is dependent on whether Cleveland wins a title in your lifetime or not.

thavoice;1724371 wrote:I dont really care if the cavs or injuns win it,just not the browns.

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like_that;1724370 wrote:Anybody who is familiar with mma or wrestling knows it was an intentional move. He had his arm over loves (like a wizzer) and grabbed loves wrist with his other hand. With that hold he turned his hip down onto him brining pressure on the shoulder. That's a wrestling move not a basketball move. They weren't even near the ball. I am not going to say he tried to injure him, but it sure as hell was reckless and dirty. Quit being a dumbass thavoice. I listened to mike and Mike this morning and if you actually listened they both said it was a reckless play.

As auto said, quit jerking off to being a contrarian. We get it, you don't like Cleveland and your life happiness is dependent on whether Cleveland wins a title in your lifetime or not.

like_that;1724370 wrote:Anybody who is familiar with mma or wrestling knows it was an intentional move.

With 5:22 remaining in the first quarter of Cleveland’s sweep of the never-say-die Celtics, Kevin Love became entangled with the pale, wavy-tressed Canadian personage of known non-thug Kelly Olynyk as the pair chased a rebound. Olynyk, out of position, attempted to execute the de rigueur big-man position jostle/dirt move wherein a player traps an opponent’s arm by pinning it between the arm and body. It was the kind of shady boxout jujitsu that’s deployed on the regular by practically every big guy in the NBA who’s any good. Names like Bogut, Z-Bo, and Griffin come to mind.

The difference being when those dudes trap a guy’s arm, it’s under relatively static circumstances — standing under the hoop, for example — and it lasts only a second. Love was running toward the ball, and after locking down on his arm, Olynyk held on and twisted in the opposite direction. Love’s shoulder popped out of its socket like the wing of a game fowl at dinnertime. Brian Windhorst reports the Cavs expect him to miss “a minimum of two weeks.”

Clearly, Olynyk meant to lock up Love’s arm, and certainly the move was of the dirty variety. Whether he actually meant Love any harm is a matter for telepaths.

lhslep134;1724387 wrote:From the Grantland NBA Shootaround

thavoice;1724398 wrote:I think the main difference between this incident and how this quote says happens on a regular basis is this...

lhslep134;1724417 wrote:You mean the exact difference the quote specifically mentions? You really went out on a limb there!!

jmog;1724376 wrote:Not a whizzer, a whizzer would have Olynyk's right arm on the back side of Love's arm, not the front side. It was more like a Russian 2 on 1 tie in wrestling than a whizzer.

Still rather dirty, just not a whizzer.

thavoice;1724420 wrote:and have been saying all day prior to that link.

lhslep134;1724423 wrote:And yet the link says it was dirty and you refuse to

thavoice;1724424 wrote:
obviously I am wrong though.

thavoice;1724424 wrote: I dont think there was any malice intent at all