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Apr 27, 2015 9:26 AM
Davis is a top 10 player and certainly is way better than Harden will ever be.

JR will get 2 games I think. Honestly as long as Lebron and Irving are healthy, they should sleep walk to the NBA finals. I'm expecting to beat the Bulls in 5 games or less.
Apr 27, 2015 9:26am
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Apr 27, 2015 9:32 AM
sleeper;1724223 wrote:Davis is a top 10 player and certainly is way better than Harden will ever be.

JR will get 2 games I think. Honestly as long as Lebron and Irving are healthy, they should sleep walk to the NBA finals. I'm expecting to beat the Bulls in 5 games or less.
I'll take AD over Harden 10/10 times and I am a huge Harden fan, not exactly going out on a limb here.

Also, I hope you're right on all accounts with smith and the cavs. I don't think a fully healthy cavs team steamrolls the bulls at full strength, def don't think that happens minus 2 starters.
Apr 27, 2015 9:32am
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Apr 27, 2015 9:37 AM
gport_tennis;1724226 wrote:I'll take AD over Harden 10/10 times and I am a huge Harden fan, not exactly going out on a limb here.

Also, I hope you're right on all accounts with smith and the cavs. I don't think a fully healthy cavs team steamrolls the bulls at full strength, def don't think that happens minus 2 starters.
I just don't get all the Bulls hype. Rose is not what everyone thinks he is and Gasol is old as dirt. What are we scared of? Noah can cause some problems on the defensive end but both Lebron and Kyrie can score with or without him there. The Bulls are overrated and the Cavs shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Apr 27, 2015 9:37am
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Apr 27, 2015 9:43 AM
sleeper;1724228 wrote:I just don't get all the Bulls hype. Rose is not what everyone thinks he is and Gasol is old as dirt. What are we scared of? Noah can cause some problems on the defensive end but both Lebron and Kyrie can score with or without him there. The Bulls are overrated and the Cavs shouldn't have anything to worry about.
The bulls record with all 5 of their normal starters is very good. I think its .750% winning percentage or something like that. One of the few teams to beat GSW in their own place.
Apr 27, 2015 9:43am
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Apr 27, 2015 9:51 AM
Love being out vs the bulls hurts worse than JR, because the bulls will have a major size advantage in the game and depth wise.
Apr 27, 2015 9:51am
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Apr 27, 2015 10:07 AM
Midstate01;1724231 wrote:Love being out vs the bulls hurts worse than JR, because the bulls will have a major size advantage in the game and depth wise.
It's not really that much of a size advantage. Who's going to guard Lebron? Who's going to guard Irving? They don't have the assets to shut down our main weapons.
Apr 27, 2015 10:07am
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Apr 27, 2015 10:09 AM
I think if Love plays, we win in 4 games, another sweep. If Love doesn't play, I think the Bulls grab game 3 or 4.
Apr 27, 2015 10:09am
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Apr 27, 2015 11:38 AM
Anyone know what the total results was on the poll on Mike and Mike this am on if they think this injury was intentional?
Was like 75% for the guy tried it.

Watched it a number of times.....just looked like a normal play where two guys get tied up. Started during the descent of the ball and continued and the celtics guy just basically held on trying to make sure Love didnt get it.
Apr 27, 2015 11:38am
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Apr 27, 2015 11:39 AM
In my eyes it was intentional, no doubt about it.
Apr 27, 2015 11:39am
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Apr 27, 2015 11:40 AM
I think it's intentional. Maybe he wasn't trying to intentionally tear his arm out and take him out, but he certainly had an intention of hurting Love. There's just simply no need to yank like that ever in an NBA game.
Apr 27, 2015 11:40am
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Apr 27, 2015 11:41 AM
Automatik;1724287 wrote:In my eyes it was intentional, no doubt about it.
Man, I just dont see it. When I heard the uproar I was expecting something major, and when I saw it many times I just didnt take it that way. Did he try to hold him? Yeah, he grasped him when both were going to the ball but that was it. Didnt notice anything malice about it. A foul? Sure. Just like you see many a loose ball fall.
Apr 27, 2015 11:41am
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Apr 27, 2015 11:53 AM
It's a dirty play by Kelly O to try and get an advantage on the court. Intentionally trying to hurt him, probably not. But what do you expect by locking his arm up with both of your arm like that and pulling? If it was just one arm for each locking up, no big deal. But there is no need for him to use his left arm to grab and pull love like that
Apr 27, 2015 11:53am
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Apr 27, 2015 2:51 PM
How anyone can say it isn't dirty is beyond me. It shows a lack of understanding of the body. Your shoulder doesn't just tear and come out of it's socket from someone getting tangled. It would take a legit pull in the position Love was in. I don't think he was trying to dislocate his shoulder, but he definitely found himself in a position to pull Loves arm and took it.
Apr 27, 2015 2:51pm
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Apr 27, 2015 2:55 PM
Laley23;1724335 wrote:How anyone can say it isn't dirty is beyond me. It shows a lack of understanding of the body. Your shoulder doesn't just tear and come out of it's socket from someone getting tangled. It would take a legit pull in the position Love was in. I don't think he was trying to dislocate his shoulder, but he definitely found himself in a position to pull Loves arm and took it.
Hell, many a times I have seen a guy not even be able to jump for a rebound because they are tangled up like that under the basket.
I think too many are just over sensitive because it is the local team.
I dont think it was so much a pull by the celtic player as it was he was holding on and not allowing Love to get away, and when he was trying to get away is when the actual damage was done.
Apr 27, 2015 2:55pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:15 PM
Apr 27, 2015 3:15pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:20 PM
Automatik;1724341 wrote:
It needs to be 5 games minimum. Dirty ass piece of shit.
Apr 27, 2015 3:20pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:20 PM
Automatik;1724341 wrote:
Yeah, I see him holding the arm so Love cannot go get the ball.
I think at times we give athletes too much credit in thinking they did something, in a split second, to intentionally hurt someone.

Oh well.....just have to hope the bulls series gets extended to give him more time to recoup.
Apr 27, 2015 3:20pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:36 PM
thavoice;1724337 wrote:Hell, many a times I have seen a guy not even be able to jump for a rebound because they are tangled up like that under the basket.
I think too many are just over sensitive because it is the local team.
I dont think it was so much a pull by the celtic player as it was he was holding on and not allowing Love to get away, and when he was trying to get away is when the actual damage was done.
(s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.
Apr 27, 2015 3:36pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:40 PM
Pick6;1724348 wrote:(s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.
Not the only one who thought it. Heard a few on Mike and Mike talk about it as well who thought the same as I do including taht Bowen guy.
Of course, that pansy Greenberg said it was dirty but the others didnt.
Apr 27, 2015 3:40pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:40 PM
Pick6;1724348 wrote:(s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.


Exactly. Takes a decent amount of force to dislocate a shoulder, unless it's a recurring injury for some.
Apr 27, 2015 3:40pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:41 PM
It was definitely dirty.

Was he trying to actually dislocate his shoulder? I don't think so. Was he trying to hurt him? Absolutely, yes.
Apr 27, 2015 3:41pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:42 PM
Automatik;1724350 wrote:
Exactly. Takes a decent amount of force to dislocate a shoulder, unless it's a recurring injury for some.
or the fact Love was trying to go a different direction and created much of that force.
Apr 27, 2015 3:42pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:42 PM
wildcats20;1724351 wrote:It was definitely dirty.

Was he trying to actually dislocate his shoulder? I don't think so. Was he trying to hurt him? Absolutely, yes.
No. He was trying to hold him and keep him away from the ball.
Apr 27, 2015 3:42pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:44 PM
You get off to being the contrarian, ammirite?
Apr 27, 2015 3:44pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:48 PM
Automatik;1724355 wrote:You get off to being the contrarian, ammirite?
Not really. At times I really troll on the browns and such.

I heard about it and as I said before, I expected to see a dirty play when I was watching this morning and I personally didnt.
I understand everyone has their own view of what happens most times and some times their own personal rooting interest can sway their thoughts.

On my two hour drive this AM and over coffee I watched/listened for well over 2 hours. The poll was highly in favor of it being dirty, but most of the so called experts didnt think so.

Obviously most of you saw something diff than myself and that is fine.
Apr 27, 2015 3:48pm