
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 8, 2014 5:24pm

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 8, 2014 5:37pm
What will really bring the lulz will be if a pissed off Rice unloads on how the team and league knew everything when they said 2 games and are only changing their minds because it became public.like_that;1652114 wrote:Anyway, if you all want some lulz: http://deadspin.com/whose-idiotic-ray-rice-comments-look-especially-awful-t-1632033541?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Mainly because that's what I (and a lot of others) think is what happened, he's the only person with nothing to lose by saying it since he's lost it all already and the ensuing shitshow will be epic. And if it gets GODell canned, I'm for it!

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 8, 2014 5:39pm
Good point, I never thought of that. Hopefully he does.Heretic;1652117 wrote:What will really bring the lulz will be if a pissed off Rice unloads on how the team and league knew everything when they said 2 games and are only changing their minds because it became public.
Mainly because that's what I (and a lot of others) think is what happened, he's the only person with nothing to lose by saying it since he's lost it all already and the ensuing shitshow will be epic. And if it gets GODell canned, I'm for it!

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 8, 2014 5:55pm
No doubt in my mind they all knew.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 7:11pm
I add my thoughts on Karate Brown. First he shows the characteristics of the dumbass elite talent WR....they seem to be coming out more and more often. The Dolphins have our most recent one but Brown is on his way unless he grows up.
Anyways...just so dumb. His goal is a TD...he jukes everyone athletic, breaks down the field and the punter has him squared up, if he jukes to his left he likely runs in for the POSITIVE highlight, for whatever reason he leaps as if to hurdle but he jumped way too damn early. The only defense he might have for the early jump is that he picked him up late and assumed the punter was running towards him....once in the air he figured he was wrong and instead of just landing he goes all Hong Kong Fooey/Daniel Son. As soon as he did it I cringed and just knew what would follow....my team yields yet another dumbass. Every team has guys you shouldn't root for but the Steelers players are piling up too much.
I just never understand why these guys make such horrible decisions. Brown could be an elite player that everyone says "damn, wish he was on my team".....but stupid shit like that just brings on the "ha ha, that dumbshit is on your team.
The worst was Roberto Alomar one of my all-time favorite players...then he spits in the umpire's face. Fortunately, he apologized and he and that ump became good friends and Alomar raised a ton of money for that ump's very sick kid. He made amends the best he could.
I wish/hope Brown takes whatever punishment he gets and makes amends....do the right thing. Admit you were a dumbass and publicly apologize and do something good for that punter.
After Ryan Braun lied, got a guy fired etc....having signed a huge contract he needs to set that guy up for at least what he would've made the rest of his life plus a significant amount in addition. But he also owed it to the fans that vote him for everything. If I were him and knowing I was playing say LF.....buy season tickets for 50-100 fans (kids group, military family etc) in that section. And then have his people set up something similar for the 80 road games....it would cost him ~ $500,000 but to me would be the necessary "my bad, I was a dumbass, please give me another chance"
But most are too arrogant and get their way so they feel they don't need to, but as a fan I'd like to see it.
Anyways...just so dumb. His goal is a TD...he jukes everyone athletic, breaks down the field and the punter has him squared up, if he jukes to his left he likely runs in for the POSITIVE highlight, for whatever reason he leaps as if to hurdle but he jumped way too damn early. The only defense he might have for the early jump is that he picked him up late and assumed the punter was running towards him....once in the air he figured he was wrong and instead of just landing he goes all Hong Kong Fooey/Daniel Son. As soon as he did it I cringed and just knew what would follow....my team yields yet another dumbass. Every team has guys you shouldn't root for but the Steelers players are piling up too much.
I just never understand why these guys make such horrible decisions. Brown could be an elite player that everyone says "damn, wish he was on my team".....but stupid shit like that just brings on the "ha ha, that dumbshit is on your team.
The worst was Roberto Alomar one of my all-time favorite players...then he spits in the umpire's face. Fortunately, he apologized and he and that ump became good friends and Alomar raised a ton of money for that ump's very sick kid. He made amends the best he could.
I wish/hope Brown takes whatever punishment he gets and makes amends....do the right thing. Admit you were a dumbass and publicly apologize and do something good for that punter.
After Ryan Braun lied, got a guy fired etc....having signed a huge contract he needs to set that guy up for at least what he would've made the rest of his life plus a significant amount in addition. But he also owed it to the fans that vote him for everything. If I were him and knowing I was playing say LF.....buy season tickets for 50-100 fans (kids group, military family etc) in that section. And then have his people set up something similar for the 80 road games....it would cost him ~ $500,000 but to me would be the necessary "my bad, I was a dumbass, please give me another chance"
But most are too arrogant and get their way so they feel they don't need to, but as a fan I'd like to see it.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Sep 8, 2014 7:15pm
Holy shit the Lions offense has been ridiculous. Stafford 7/8 149 and 2 TD's

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 7:19pm
Way to jinx your team

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 8, 2014 7:26pm
Good post, not the type of response I expected lol.Ironman92;1652133 wrote:I add my thoughts on Karate Brown. First he shows the characteristics of the dumbass elite talent WR....they seem to be coming out more and more often. The Dolphins have our most recent one but Brown is on his way unless he grows up.
Anyways...just so dumb. His goal is a TD...he jukes everyone athletic, breaks down the field and the punter has him squared up, if he jukes to his left he likely runs in for the POSITIVE highlight, for whatever reason he leaps as if to hurdle but he jumped way too damn early. The only defense he might have for the early jump is that he picked him up late and assumed the punter was running towards him....once in the air he figured he was wrong and instead of just landing he goes all Hong Kong Fooey/Daniel Son. As soon as he did it I cringed and just knew what would follow....my team yields yet another dumbass. Every team has guys you shouldn't root for but the Steelers players are piling up too much.
I just never understand why these guys make such horrible decisions. Brown could be an elite player that everyone says "damn, wish he was on my team".....but stupid shit like that just brings on the "ha ha, that dumbshit is on your team.
The worst was Roberto Alomar one of my all-time favorite players...then he spits in the umpire's face. Fortunately, he apologized and he and that ump became good friends and Alomar raised a ton of money for that ump's very sick kid. He made amends the best he could.
I wish/hope Brown takes whatever punishment he gets and makes amends....do the right thing. Admit you were a dumbass and publicly apologize and do something good for that punter.
After Ryan Braun lied, got a guy fired etc....having signed a huge contract he needs to set that guy up for at least what he would've made the rest of his life plus a significant amount in addition. But he also owed it to the fans that vote him for everything. If I were him and knowing I was playing say LF.....buy season tickets for 50-100 fans (kids group, military family etc) in that section. And then have his people set up something similar for the 80 road games....it would cost him ~ $500,000 but to me would be the necessary "my bad, I was a dumbass, please give me another chance"
But most are too arrogant and get their way so they feel they don't need to, but as a fan I'd like to see it.
I am not on the same boat as you when it comes to talented but unlikeable players. They can do what they want with their money. If they are producing for my team, I really don't care if they are dumbasses unless 1. it becomes very detrimental to the team (i.e. gordon), or 2. if they are scumbags (rapistberger, rice, etc)
You would have thought last year the Lions were on their way to a SB title reading his posts. You're talking about the game who said BG is favored to win 11 of their games before the season started. They then proceed to get their asses kicked by WKU lol.Ironman92;1652140 wrote:Way to jinx your team

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Sep 8, 2014 7:31pm
They were 6-3, that was the worse choke I have ever seen though down the stretch. I worry about the pass D thoughlike_that;1652141 wrote:
You would have thought last year the Lions were on their way to a SB title reading his posts. You're talking about the game who said BG is favored to win 11 of their games before the season started. They then proceed to get their asses kicked by WKU lol.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 7:52pm
You expected me to make lame excuses while showing no real disdain didn't you.like_that;1652141 wrote:Good post, not the type of response I expected lol.
I am not on the same boat as you when it comes to talented but unlikeable players. They can do what they want with their money. If they are producing for my team, I really don't care if they are dumbasses unless 1. it becomes very detrimental to the team (i.e. gordon), or 2. if they are scumbags (rapistberger, rice, etc)
You would have thought last year the Lions were on their way to a SB title reading his posts. You're talking about the game who said BG is favored to win 11 of their games before the season started. They then proceed to get their asses kicked by WKU lol.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 8, 2014 8:25pm
I just thought you liked Brown.Ironman92;1652149 wrote:You expected me to make lame excuses while showing no real disdain didn't you.

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Sep 8, 2014 8:37pm
TMZ says they have proof that the NFL turned a blind eye to Rice.
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tmz-plans-to-release-proof-that-nfl--turned-blind-eye--to-rice-video-002259381.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tmz-plans-to-release-proof-that-nfl--turned-blind-eye--to-rice-video-002259381.html

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 8:38pm
I LOVE what he brings...but his knucklehead tendencies had/have me leery. This was another knock. I really need him to clean it up. It's ok to be one of the best and also be a respectful player (Polamalu)like_that;1652165 wrote:I just thought you liked Brown.
I loved James Harrison but hated some of his dirty moments. Loved Hines Ward but some of his blindsides I wish he hadn't done.
Glad we got rid of Mike Wallace and Santonio Holmes....just a matter of time I thought.

Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
Sep 8, 2014 8:39pm
I would say no as well. Even if he did get reinstated at some point (which I believe could be a couple of years) his age then will become a factor as a RB compromising his productivity if or when he plays again. Besides that he would be head hunted by every defense that faces him, his career is over I don't see him recovering from this.Automatik;1652034 wrote:I wonder if he'll ever play in the NFL again? I'm going with no.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 8, 2014 8:47pm
I hope this is true. Would love for the arrogant POS goodell to be forced to resign.GoChiefs;1652170 wrote:TMZ says they have proof that the NFL turned a blind eye to Rice.
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tmz-plans-to-release-proof-that-nfl--turned-blind-eye--to-rice-video-002259381.html

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 8:57pm
I would be a fan of this but not a fan of it overwhelming the sports world.like_that;1652181 wrote:I hope this is true. Would love for the arrogant POS goodell to be forced to resign.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Sep 8, 2014 9:41pm
He'll probably be back in the league, I think what Mike Vick did was just as bad and maybe worse just because he actually got enjoyment out of that while Rice is just a fucked up dude. Btw Lions with a great effort tonight but the Giants are pretty horrible

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Sep 8, 2014 10:19pm
Carson Palmer still a damn good QB
T
Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 8, 2014 10:25pm
Your comparing dog abuse to wife beating!?! Jesus dude who's the one that's fucked up?

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 10:45pm
Vick grew up around crazy dog fighting.....
Maybe Ray grew up around men beating the shit out of women.
Vick...SMH watching him in college and his early years. Was my favorite player just because of how exciting he was, didn't matter it wasn't the type to win it all or sustain health....but an effing blast to watch. His crime also indefensible.
Has he done anything negative since getting out of prison? (I don't pay as much attention or remember these off the field things as well as many of you)
Maybe Ray grew up around men beating the shit out of women.
Vick...SMH watching him in college and his early years. Was my favorite player just because of how exciting he was, didn't matter it wasn't the type to win it all or sustain health....but an effing blast to watch. His crime also indefensible.
Has he done anything negative since getting out of prison? (I don't pay as much attention or remember these off the field things as well as many of you)

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 10:47pm
Eh....he's pretty solid and piling up some good career statistics but not going with damn good.gerb131;1652204 wrote:Carson Palmer still a damn good QB
Still has a lot of his old abilities and he is a smarter player.
Ever won a playoff game? He may be high up on that lists....Jim Hart?

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 8, 2014 10:56pm
Just went to pro football reference and drilled that comparison. Hart was 0-2 in playoff games. Carson has 3 more TD 212-209 and Hart is at 34,600 yards and Carson about 800 behind.Ironman92;1652217 wrote:Eh....he's pretty solid and piling up some good career statistics but not going with damn good.
Still has a lot of his old abilities and he is a smarter player.
Ever won a playoff game? He may be high up on that lists....Jim Hart?

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 8, 2014 11:06pm
He's pretty damn good at throwing the deep ball. That's about all.gerb131;1652204 wrote:Carson Palmer still a damn good QB

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 8, 2014 11:13pm
God I hope that report from TMZ is real. Goodell is a grade A POS

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Sep 8, 2014 11:17pm
That is such a terrible spot. He literally marked it a yard short of where Ellington was.