SportsAndLady;1698354 wrote:Not sure but it really doesn't matter. If Rodgers is cheating he should get in trouble too. Point is, the patriots cheated and this isn't their first time getting caught cheating.

Their reputation is destroyed by being a bunch of cheaters.

Laley23;1698361 wrote:Both links you posted said Rodgers prefers over inflated footballs and he wishes the NFL didn't take air out of them to meet the requirements. Nowhere does it say he cheats and pumps them back up. In the deadspin article, it is unclear if he pushes the limit before the league checks or after.

Laley23;1698361 wrote:Both links you posted said Rodgers prefers over inflated footballs and he wishes the NFL didn't take air out of them to meet the requirements. Nowhere does it say he cheats and pumps them back up. In the deadspin article, it is unclear if he pushes the limit before the league checks or after.

"My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football.

Pick6;1698341 wrote:Who gives a fuck honestly? I couldn't give a damn about the Pats. So what it makes it easier to catch, you ever try throwing a flat football? D'qwell probably has his "flat" football to thank for his int tbh.

Pick6;1698349 wrote:filming practices is fucked up, stepping out on the field to stop somebody from scoring is fucked up. deflating balls making them easier to catch and harder to throw isn't fucked up. its a tradeoff.

Laley23;1698361 wrote:Both links you posted said Rodgers prefers over inflated footballs and he wishes the NFL didn't take air out of them to meet the requirements. Nowhere does it say he cheats and pumps them back up. In the deadspin article, it is unclear if he pushes the limit before the league checks or after.

SportsAndLady;1698363 wrote:It doesn't even matter. Getting caught cheating and immediately saying "well ______ does it too!" Is the response you'd get from a 5 year old who gets caught taking cookies from the pantry and immediately blames his brother.

HitsRus;1698379 wrote:LOL at trying to justify this by saying "Aaron Rodgers does it too!"...Rules are rules...you either play by them and expect ALL to play by them, or you throw them out. In this case you either enforce the inflation rules or you just let the QB's inflate them to wherever they want them. A ball is either regulation or it's not.

It's like corking a bat in baseball.....you get caught cheating, there is a price to pay. here is no "Well, Albert Belle did it" excuse that allows you to skate.

Raw Dawgin' it;1698380 wrote:So say they find that no one tampered with the balls after the referee inspection - is there still a penalty to the Patriots for the referees making a mistake?

SportsAndLady;1698385 wrote:Hi I'm earth, have we met?

Raw Dawgin' it;1698358 wrote:They could suspend him and i bet he finds a way to coach the team. I honestly don't think they give a shit about punishments for anything they do.

Raw Dawgin' it;1698380 wrote:So say they find that no one tampered with the balls after the referee inspection - is there still a penalty to the Patriots for the referees making a mistake?

like_that;1698391 wrote:Yup, 11/12 balls just happened to magically be deflated after they passed the final inspection before kickoff. Just admit your team cheats and move on.

Raw Dawgin' it;1698393 wrote:Ok they cheat. I'm not saying they're innocent. I'm saying, if they weren't tampered with after final inspection, then they clearly weren't inspected correctly, and who's fault is that? Until the penalty is forfeiting the game, i don't think there is any penalty that would change their mentality. They fine them? Suspend BB? Take away draft picks? I don't think they view that punishment as worse than the reward. Replace them in the SB with the Colts then and send a message then and see if they continue to break rules.

Raw Dawgin' it;1698393 wrote:Ok they cheat. I'm not saying they're innocent. I'm saying, if they weren't tampered with after final inspection, then they clearly weren't inspected correctly, and who's fault is that? Until the penalty is forfeiting the game, i don't think there is any penalty that would change their mentality. They fine them? Suspend BB? Take away draft picks? I don't think they view that punishment as worse than the reward. Replace them in the SB with the Colts then and send a message then and see if they continue to break rules.

wildcats20;1698394 wrote:That will NEVER happen.

like_that;1698395 wrote:If they take away the first round pick I think thy would care, especially considering their window of opportunity is closing with Brady getting older. They are going to need the picks.

HitsRus;1698435 wrote:If you suspend Josh Gordon for a borderline fail of a marijuana test, what's the penalty for on-field cheating?

The NFL should thoroughly investigate the affair in the off season and if it is shown that this is as it appears, then suspend Brady for at least 6 games next year...and Belichick for a year (since this is his second offense) Fine Kraft and take away a draft pick. Plus put the team on probation for 5 years, and if there are any more incidents Kraft should be forced to sell the team.
If Donald Sterling can lose his franchise over a surrepticiously recording of a private conversation, then most certainly the NFL has the power to remove an owner whose team continues to willfully cheat.