The problem was the horrendous play call to begin with. No time outs left, clock running down and you call a screen or whatever that was over the middle? I thought sure LSU was going to get in FG range and then they call that play.

Les Miles rivals Dennis Green for worst clock manager in history.

It was a horrendous play call, I must agree with that

^^^Agree, lets hope Um hires him after RR.

september63 wrote: Not to mention the Ole Miss game where he botched clock management. He intially lied to the press after the game. Threw his QB under the bus!! Days later a tape surfaced showing him telling QB to spike the ball. LOL Then he half apologized.

Exactly what i said hours ago! Les Miles cant coach in a close game.

JoeA1010 wrote:

Les Miles rivals Dennis Green for worst clock manager in history.

Ouch, I was a huge Green fan when he was at Minnesota too, lol. I think Miles is still a great coach, but I dont think he is coaching the way he did his first 3 years at LSU. I dont think its the talent level why he is coaching different either.

september63 wrote:

september63 wrote: Not to mention the Ole Miss game where he botched clock management. He intially lied to the press after the game. Threw his QB under the bus!! Days later a tape surfaced showing him telling QB to spike the ball. LOL Then he half apologized.

Exactly what i said hours ago! Les Miles cant coach in a close game.

You might want to do research on that. Im sure you just have a couple games in mind.

No time for research here. Les Miles record as a HC is 43-30. He won a NC with another coaches guys.

he's 13 games over .500. Most schools will take that

darbypitcher22 wrote: he's 13 games over .500. Most schools will take that

13 games over .500 in 9 years!! You think most schools would take that?

well find out what he was @ Oklahoma State before that.... then do the math... I'm sure the win % goes up

september63 wrote: No time for research here. Les Miles record as a HC is 43-30. He won a NC with another coaches guys.

Try 51-14 with LSU. Where did you come up with your #'s?
79-35 overall with all teams

13 games over .500 in 9 years....wow that is bad....He's not as good as I thought.

Citybuck wrote: 13 games over .500 in 9 years....wow that is bad....He's not as good as I thought.

Read my post. 44 games over .500 in 9 years.

ok, he did a good job with coach Saban's players one year.

Citybuck wrote: ok, he did a good job with coach Saban's players one year.

44 games over .500 = doing a good with Saban's players one year?

I can EAT crow when I was wrong!! Les Miles is indeed, 79-36, over his 9 years as a HC. I was incorrect. Average record is basically yearly 9-4 for his career.

Other guys players? Yes it was, but he still coached them and has a ring. YOu can't take that away from him. If so, same goes for Tress with Coops kids. And too that point, thats something that is not always easy to do, come in with a different system/program and get kids to buy into it and then go on to win. IMO, maybe hard to do then win with your own players.
All that being said, Miles was lucky in that the year he won with LSU as that was probably the most down year in the past 10+ yrs of college football. To even get into the title game with 2 losses is unheard of. OSU was lucky to get in that year as well because of that year.
I think Miles is a good coach...not one of the elite though IMO. He has a BOAT load of talent and athletes on that team. To lose 5 last year and 4 this year with that talent has to go on his shoulders. Next year or two should be interesting. Another 3,4 or 5 loss season, and I can see the heat cranked up real quick.

Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

cats gone wild wrote: Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

Not offensively, but defensively.

I still maintain that the best player on that defense is sophomore CB Patrick Peterson. I love the kid.

cats gone wild wrote: Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

Like OSU, they lacked consistancy from the most needed position on the field, QB.

They may have a worse QB situation than OSU has....

centralbucksfan wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

Like OSU, they lacked consistancy from the most needed position on the field, QB.

At least OSU had a little bit of consistancy. LSU really could of used Perrilloux. Im just worried if they are going to ruin R. Sheppard by not using him.

cats gone wild wrote:

centralbucksfan wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

Like OSU, they lacked consistancy from the most needed position on the field, QB.

At least OSU had a little bit of consistancy. LSU really could of used Perrilloux. Im just worried if they are going to ruin R. Sheppard by not using him.

Well, Pryor certainly stepped up today. But I think the credit goes to Tressel for make a major change after their loss to Purdue. He limited Pryor passing, and started using him more in the running. Although he didn't pass much down the stretch, I think those wins gave him confidence, thus helped him today.

I think most people would take 79-34... he's a good football coach taht hasn't been able todo anything offensively today

centralbucksfan wrote:

cats gone wild wrote: Cbf, to add to what you said about talent....
Watching the bottom of the screen for this game at Todd McShay's NFL rankings for LSU players.....I was like WOW! They had a huge list of NFL ranked players for the draft. They sure didnt play like it this year.

Like OSU, they lacked consistancy from the most needed position on the field, QB.

After today, I think OSU might be in better shape....