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Jul 16, 2014 1:58 PM
Because many people aren't that smart or aware. Just by posting here my guess is all of us are in the top 30% of achievers. Not sure if you went to public schools or not but if you did think about the bottom half of your class....it is pretty scary. If anything I'm surprised that many of them successfully raised children given their inability to work at a moderately skilled job.
Jul 16, 2014 1:58pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:14 PM
vball10set;1636637 wrote:I'm sorry, but I'm baffled by someone, anyone, saying it could be an accident. How can leaving your infant, your own flesh and blood who depends on you for everything, behind in a vehicle (on any kind of fricking day) be an accident? I'm really irritated by this, but I have to assume it's because the people saying it don't have kids of their own and haven't a clue.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to vball10set again.
Jul 16, 2014 2:14pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:18 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1636644 wrote:Because many people aren't that smart or aware. Just by posting here my guess is all of us are in the top 30% of achievers. Not sure if you went to public schools or not but if you did think about the bottom half of your class....it is pretty scary. If anything I'm surprised that many of them successfully raised children given their inability to work at a moderately skilled job.
I don't necessarily know if posting here is a way to measure achievement in life but your point is spot on. Think of the losers from high school and some of the people on your Facebook wall, there are truly some people who cannot put together coherent thoughts. And those are the people reproducing and usually at a higher than the educated.
Jul 16, 2014 2:18pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:24 PM
"Think of the losers from high school and some of the people on your Facebook wall"

Good Lord, the ones that aren't dead and not in prison seem to have 4+ kids. But I have to admit, they seem like good family people. Still, I'm not sure it is a social good that they raise their kids in mobile homes. But on the other hand, they seem to be involved in their children's athletic activities, which is a very positive thing.
Jul 16, 2014 2:24pm
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Jul 16, 2014 3:22 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1636644 wrote: Not sure if you went to public schools or not but if you did think about the bottom half of your class....it is pretty scary. If anything I'm surprised that many of them successfully raised children given their inability to work at a moderately skilled job.
Some of them who worked really hard became gym teachers.
Jul 16, 2014 3:22pm
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Jul 16, 2014 5:14 PM
vball10set;1636609 wrote:I have to believe neither of you have kids. We're not talking about animals (which would be sad unto itself) or inanimate objects, we're talking about your CHILD. There is no reason, excuse, whatever, short of what S&L said (leaving them there intentionally) or being too drunk or high. You do not simply forget your child is in the car. Period.
I have 3 kids that range from 8 to 13. I can say that what Fab says is correct. I drive 45 min to work everyday and it is like autopilot. One day I had to drop my oldest off at school when he was in kindergarten and I was half way to cleveland from Akron when I remembered he was in the car with me (he fell asleep in the back).

Now, if I had done something like this and he died, I would FULLY expect to be punished with manslaughter and deservedly so.
Jul 16, 2014 5:14pm
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Jul 16, 2014 9:23 PM
Bio-Hazzzzard;1636447 wrote:I am continuously hearing of this every day of someone "forgetting" their child leaving them in the car while they go about their business.
it happens
Jul 16, 2014 9:23pm
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Jul 16, 2014 10:28 PM
Mohican00;1636744 wrote:it happens
Yes it does, however, parental negligence concerning the presence of their child is the part that is disturbing. It's unfortunate that we have parents that think so little of their children to not even recognize or remember that they are with them.


Fab4Runner;1636599 wrote:I do believe there are cases where it truly is an accident.
Accident? Negligence is the appropriate term.



Fab4Runner;1636599 wrote:If someone has a daily routine it almost becomes an autopilot situation. Sometimes I get to work in the morning and don't even remember my commute.
Hopefully parents will acknowledge their child's presence when in "auto pilot"
Fab4Runner;1636599 wrote:If it not typically that parent's "job" to drop the child at daycare or school, and the baby is sleeping peacefully in the back, I can understand how it can happen.
That's not a job its an obligation, that parent should be ashamed of themselves.
Jul 16, 2014 10:28pm
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Jul 16, 2014 10:52 PM
vball10set;1636609 wrote:You do not simply forget your child is in the car. Period.
Spot on.
Jul 16, 2014 10:52pm
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Jul 17, 2014 9:34 AM
jmog;1636700 wrote:I have 3 kids that range from 8 to 13. I can say that what Fab says is correct. I drive 45 min to work everyday and it is like autopilot. One day I had to drop my oldest off at school when he was in kindergarten and I was half way to cleveland from Akron when I remembered he was in the car with me (he fell asleep in the back).

Now, if I had done something like this and he died, I would FULLY expect to be punished with manslaughter and deservedly so.
wow, I don't know how to respond to this, so all I'll do is smh :(
Jul 17, 2014 9:34am
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Jul 17, 2014 9:52 AM
vball10set;1636816 wrote:wow, I don't know how to respond to this, so all I'll do is smh :(
lol what a judgmental asshole.
Jul 17, 2014 9:52am
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Jul 17, 2014 10:08 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1636822 wrote:lol what a judgmental asshole.
hahaha, oh, the irony!!!
Jul 17, 2014 10:08am
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Jul 17, 2014 10:25 AM
jmog;1636700 wrote:I have 3 kids that range from 8 to 13. I can say that what Fab says is correct. I drive 45 min to work everyday and it is like autopilot. One day I had to drop my oldest off at school when he was in kindergarten and I was half way to cleveland from Akron when I remembered he was in the car with me (he fell asleep in the back).

Now, if I had done something like this and he died, I would FULLY expect to be punished with manslaughter and deservedly so.
vball10set;1636816 wrote:wow, I don't know how to respond to this, so all I'll do is smh :(

This is so much different than the topic. Now, had you gotten ALL the way to work, gotten out of the car, locked it and then went in and worked for 8 hours without realizing that your child was in the car, then you have a problem.
Jul 17, 2014 10:25am
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Jul 17, 2014 11:34 AM
A tad off topic as this meth head gets arrested for leaving her dog to die in a hot car while she's in Walmart for THIRTEEN hours. I can't stand being in there 5 minutes....

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Jul 17, 2014 11:34am
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Jul 17, 2014 11:37 AM
TBone14;1636831 wrote:This is so much different than the topic. Now, had you gotten ALL the way to work, gotten out of the car, locked it and then went in and worked for 8 hours without realizing that your child was in the car, then you have a problem.
It may be different from the original topic, but I still can't wrap my head around a parent "forgetting" their child is in the car with them. It just baffles me.
Jul 17, 2014 11:37am
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Jul 17, 2014 11:45 AM
vball10set;1636609 wrote:I have to believe neither of you have kids. We're not talking about animals (which would be sad unto itself) or inanimate objects, we're talking about your CHILD. There is no reason, excuse, whatever, short of what S&L said (leaving them there intentionally) or being too drunk or high. You do not simply forget your child is in the car. Period.
THIS!
Jul 17, 2014 11:45am
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Jul 17, 2014 1:04 PM
vball10set;1636855 wrote:It may be different from the original topic, but I still can't wrap my head around a parent "forgetting" their child is in the car with them. It just baffles me.
Part of me agrees with you. I only have one and he is just 8 months old, so it is hard to forget about something so new. But I understand people entering a fugue state (what some of your are calling 'autopilot') when doing things that are routine. Just a couple of weeks ago. Friday night, my wife and I are going to the dinner. The restaurant is on the same general route as the route I take to work. I completely drive by the exit for the restaurant. My wife says, "Where are you going?". I replied, "apparently I am driving to work."

Another anecdote, my dad never took me to school. It was either my mom, the bus, a friend...whatever. One day for whatever reason, my dad is taking me to school. I am middle school aged, so I am sitting in the front seat right next to him. He literally drives right by the school. I said, "umm...am I going to school?" "Oh shit, yea I forgot you were there."

Literally right next to him. And my dad is a good parent, smart, successful..etc. I understand that type of stuff. All of it way different that locking your kid in the car and leaving them.
Jul 17, 2014 1:04pm
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Jul 17, 2014 1:08 PM
TBone14;1636894 wrote:Part of me agrees with you. I only have one and he is just 8 months old, so it is hard to forget about something so new. But I understand people entering a fugue state (what some of your are calling 'autopilot') when doing things that are routine. Just a couple of weeks ago. Friday night, my wife and I are going to the dinner. The restaurant is on the same general route as the route I take to work. I completely drive by the exit for the restaurant. My wife says, "Where are you going?". I replied, "apparently I am driving to work."

Another anecdote, my dad never took me to school. It was either my mom, the bus, a friend...whatever. One day for whatever reason, my dad is taking me to school. I am middle school aged, so I am sitting in the front seat right next to him. He literally drives right by the school. I said, "umm...am I going to school?" "Oh shit, yea I forgot you were there."

Literally right next to him. And my dad is a good parent, smart, successful..etc. I understand that type of stuff. All of it way different that locking your kid in the car and leaving them.
Bingo!
Jul 17, 2014 1:08pm
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Jul 17, 2014 1:12 PM
Can normally responsible, intelligent, loving, caring people forget their kids in a car?....ABSOLUTELY.

I remember an 'incident' where Mrs Hits and I were going to a big social function, and the situation demanded that we drop our older kids off at one of their friends house, and then take our youngest to a babysitter about 15 minutes away. We dropped our older kids off, but on the way to the baby sitter, we got to talking about all the stuff going on in our lives, and arrived at our social function without having dropped off our princess who was sleeping peacefully in the back. Fortunately we noticed right away...but I could see us being so wrapped up in a conversation that we could have easily gone inside without realizing that the baby was still in the car.

That said, that does not mean that is an excuse, for most certainly it would be negligence.... But intelligent, normal people can be negligent and it happens every day.
Accidents happen to humans all the time, that's why they are accidents....and most certainly they can be tragic, and can happen to good people, not just POS's.

More onerous is the situation where one parent leaves their kid in the car...deliberatly...to run into a store to get something, then gets distracted.....for those there is no sympathy.
Jul 17, 2014 1:12pm
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Jul 17, 2014 2:06 PM
HitsRus;1636899 wrote:Can normally responsible, intelligent, loving, caring people forget their kids in a car?....ABSOLUTELY.

I remember an 'incident' where Mrs Hits and I were going to a big social function, and the situation demanded that we drop our older kids off at one of their friends house, and then take our youngest to a babysitter about 15 minutes away. We dropped our older kids off, but on the way to the baby sitter, we got to talking about all the stuff going on in our lives, and arrived at our social function without having dropped off our princess who was sleeping peacefully in the back. Fortunately we noticed right away...but I could see us being so wrapped up in a conversation that we could have easily gone inside without realizing that the baby was still in the car.

That said, that does not mean that is an excuse, for most certainly it would be negligence.... But intelligent, normal people can be negligent and it happens every day.
Accidents happen to humans all the time, that's why they are accidents....and most certainly they can be tragic, and can happen to good people, not just POS's.

More onerous is the situation where one parent leaves their kid in the car...deliberatly...to run into a store to get something, then gets distracted.....for those there is no sympathy.
No excuse. PERIOD.
Jul 17, 2014 2:06pm
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Jul 17, 2014 2:22 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1636915 wrote:No excuse. PERIOD.

This.
Jul 17, 2014 2:22pm
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Jul 17, 2014 2:23 PM
vball10set;1636921 wrote:This.
He wasn't being serious.... he was mocking you.
Jul 17, 2014 2:23pm
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Jul 17, 2014 2:26 PM
Iliketurtles;1636923 wrote:He wasn't being serious.... he was mocking you.
lol, I know, but he's not very bright so I thought I'd play his little game...thanks anyway ;)
Jul 17, 2014 2:26pm
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Jul 17, 2014 2:37 PM
an old principal i used to work with did it 6-7 years ago. she was a nice lady, very hard working and very stressed out. one day she went to the daycare but somehow got distracted and never took her daughter in and then went to work leaving the child unkown to her in the car. she was devastated and i dont believe for a second it was on purpose. i cant remember if she was charged or what she was charged with. i know she didnt come back to work
Jul 17, 2014 2:37pm