SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 10, 2014 10:25am
I don't believe so either. I don't think you can be a top 10 nba player without playing any defense. Same reason I don't have harden in there as well.Commander of Awesome;1634570 wrote:Kevin love isn't top 10 player IMO.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 10, 2014 10:53am
Agreed. Also health. Hard to be the best when you're always sidelined with injuries.SportsAndLady;1634571 wrote:I don't believe so either. I don't think you can be a top 10 nba player without playing any defense. Same reason I don't have harden in there as well.
I was thinking would I rather have love or Melo? To me it was Melo, and not that hard of a decision. Do I think Melo is a top 10 player? Certainly not, which is why love isn't close. He's in the 15-25 range for me.
robj55
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Jul 10, 2014 10:57am
In this day and age you can.SportsAndLady;1634571 wrote:I don't believe so either. I don't think you can be a top 10 nba player without playing any defense. Same reason I don't have harden in there as well.
sleeper
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Jul 10, 2014 11:00am
Defense is all about effort and I think Love would play defense if he had a shot at winning. Why risk injury for a 40 win team?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 10, 2014 11:01am
Melo is a not a good defender at all and is top 10. Steph Curry, not a good defender, Harden same thing as well as Blake Griffin although he has improved. All these guys are considered top 10 players and are below average to poor defenders. I guess if you do enough on the other end it makes up for it if your impact on the game is high enough.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 10, 2014 11:01am
Yes, if you don't think he would play D with Lebron on his team you are crazy.sleeper;1634591 wrote:Defense is all about effort and I think Love would play defense if he had a shot at winning. Why risk injury for a 40 win team?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 10, 2014 11:35am
Griffin Top 10? Lolrobj55;1634592 wrote:Melo is a not a good defender at all and is top 10. Steph Curry, not a good defender, Harden same thing as well as Blake Griffin although he has improved. All these guys are considered top 10 players and are below average to poor defenders. I guess if you do enough on the other end it makes up for it if your impact on the game is high enough.
robj55
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Jul 10, 2014 11:39am
Yes according to a lot of people. Not my list just the consensus on who is largely considered top 10.ernest_t_bass;1634608 wrote:Griffin Top 10? Lol
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 10, 2014 11:41am
I will say that it is probably harder to defend today than it used to be due to the caliber of athletes and the fact that you can't hand check or body as much. Not making an excuse for those guys though.
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KB0938
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Jul 10, 2014 12:12pm
Yeah i dont think everyone in the top 10 plays great defense. Unless thats what you base your top 10 on
ernest_t_bass
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Jul 10, 2014 9:43pm
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 11, 2014 8:02am
Man melo has such a tough decision to make lol
He wants (needs) a title so bad, and that's not happening at NY. But he's leaving 50+million on the table by leaving lol he probably doesn't know what the fuck to do.
He wants (needs) a title so bad, and that's not happening at NY. But he's leaving 50+million on the table by leaving lol he probably doesn't know what the fuck to do.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 11, 2014 8:08am
He's not leaving that much.SportsAndLady;1634905 wrote:Man melo has such a tough decision to make lol
He wants (needs) a title so bad, and that's not happening at NY. But he's leaving 50+million on the table by leaving lol he probably doesn't know what the fuck to do.
It's been figured out that if he takes the LA deal, he will lose less than the $17-18 mil difference. I can't remember who it was, but it was a financial guy who did all of the figuring. The only thing he couldn't factor in was how Melo files his taxes lol.
I think his best shot to win is Chicago. But I don't think he goes there. In the end I think he remains in NY. But apparently he is completely ignoring Phil as of late.
SportsAndLady
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Jul 11, 2014 8:12am
I don't think he'll leave the money on the table. But why is it taking this long to sign? I think it's because he hates playing in NY and thinks they'll suck for a while. But just can't leave the money on the table lolwildcats20;1634908 wrote:He's not leaving that much.
It's been figured out that if he takes the LA deal, he will lose less than the $17-18 mil difference. I can't remember who it was, but it was a financial guy who did all of the figuring. The only thing he couldn't factor in was how Melo files his taxes lol.
I think his best shot to win is Chicago. But I don't think he goes there. In the end I think he remains in NY. But apparently he is completely ignoring Phil as of late.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 11, 2014 8:16am
He's waiting for LeBron. Why? I have no idea, unless they have a master plan in the works.
I think him waiting til Bron decides makes him look like sloppy seconds. He should just do it and get his moment in the sun, so to speak. Not be clouded over by Bron's decision.
I think him waiting til Bron decides makes him look like sloppy seconds. He should just do it and get his moment in the sun, so to speak. Not be clouded over by Bron's decision.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 11, 2014 8:20am
These guys just like the spotlight. That's all I can think about. Everyone knows melo is signing in NY. So just fucking do it.wildcats20;1634913 wrote:He's waiting for LeBron. Why? I have no idea, unless they have a master plan in the works.
I think him waiting til Bron decides makes him look like sloppy seconds. He should just do it and get his moment in the sun, so to speak. Not be clouded over by Bron's decision.
jordo212000
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Jul 11, 2014 9:34am
Any thought that Melo could end up in Miami with Lebron, Wade and Bosh? With each taking pay cuts?
SportsAndLady
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Jul 11, 2014 9:37am
And lose out on 50 million plus? No.jordo212000;1634946 wrote:Any thought that Melo could end up in Miami with Lebron, Wade and Bosh? With each taking pay cuts?
like_that
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Jul 11, 2014 9:44am
Again, the CBA states this is illegal. Try to keep up little guy.jordo212000;1634946 wrote:Any thought that Melo could end up in Miami with Lebron, Wade and Bosh? With each taking pay cuts?
Automatik
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Jul 11, 2014 10:00am
wildcats20;1634913 wrote:He's waiting for LeBron. Why? I have no idea, unless they have a master plan in the works.
I think him waiting til Bron decides makes him look like sloppy seconds. He should just do it and get his moment in the sun, so to speak. Not be clouded over by Bron's decision.
You know who said that Melo was waiting......"sources." Just like every piece of BS info that has been reported in the past week. No one puts a name to anything. Sources, sources, sources. It's fucking sports TMZ and people eat it up.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 11, 2014 12:22pm
If Bosh doesn't go to Houston, he's a fucking moron.
wildcats20
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Jul 11, 2014 12:23pm
Bosh will have his decision in no time. There is no way in hell he stays in Miami.
SportsAndLady
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Jul 11, 2014 12:25pm
Houston will be tough with bosh. Is parsons going to sign somewhere else then?
wildcats20
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Jul 11, 2014 12:25pm
I don't think they have near enough room for both.SportsAndLady;1635101 wrote:Houston will be tough with bosh. Is parsons going to sign somewhere else then?
Parsons already signed the offer sheet from Dallas.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 11, 2014 12:26pm
Would love to see Melo, Bosh and Wade in Miami. I think the NBA would love that too, talk about a juicy storyline