sleeper;1618347 wrote:I read what you wrote. The advice of go to CC and then transfer for your bachelors is a common piece of advice given by delusional Boomers who are clueless as to how the world actually works. I don't need to repeat what gut wrote, so I will just sit back and let your ignorance guide you.

Watered down.

Is it because many will only accept and strive for the top tier jobs with good pay instead of just trying to find A job and work their way up?

Many a people back in the day would have some sort of job lined up after college whether it was in their field or not just to be employed and still search for the one in their field.

Almost seems like many are spoiled and expect to start at the top of the food chain when it doesnt work that way. Experience at a certain job many times trumps that piece of paper in your hand.

thavoice;1618361 wrote:Is it because many will only accept and strive for the top tier jobs with good pay instead of just trying to find A job and work their way up?

Many a people back in the day would have some sort of job lined up after college whether it was in their field or not just to be employed and still search for the one in their field.

Almost seems like many are spoiled and expect to start at the top of the food chain when it doesnt work that way. Experience at a certain job many times trumps that piece of paper in your hand.

Spoken like a true Boomer.

sleeper;1618314 wrote:Sounds like your typical OU grad. I don't know a single OU grad that actually has a job with a salary.

Lol, I have a degree from OU and I have a salary.

Hope this helps.

Manhattan Buckeye;1618336 wrote:Sister in law is a magna cum laude graduate from the University of Virginia, and a master's grad from St Andrews in Scotland. She's employed (by me).

No one is hiring. I've never thought I'd see the day when the USA was in this shape. Take it to the politics board if it must but it is getting ridiculous. We are losing an entire generation.

That's funny because I employed her last night

But seriously you're correct and I think the WSJ talks about this almost daily. I think though again the bottom line is too many kids now are not going down the business route and able to get the open jobs because of a lack of skills. Also skill trades are severely lacking, if some of these people learned one they could find a job easy and make a good chunk of change. I mean it's crazy how unbusiness savvy these students are, the things that would be asked in Economics is mind-boggling. I know half the class got a D or worse, and it's only a 2000 level one! Wasn't easy but still should be able to get at least a C

Don't sit around and wait for the job to come to you--squeaky wheel gets the grease.

SportsAndLady;1618369 wrote:Lol, I have a degree from OU and I have a salary.

Hope this helps.

I'll believe it when I see it.

vball10set;1618376 wrote:Don't sit around and wait for the job to come to you--squeaky wheel gets the grease.

More fail advice from the Boomer generation who don't have a clue on how the world works. Not saying it never works or doesn't add some value, but the reality is with online applications any attempts to contact a hiring manager at best will result in you being entirely ignored.

I really think the best advice for a college grad is to network the fuck out of everyone you know. My friend is extremely good at this, despite being of average at best intelligence, he will have your business card and be connected on linkedin with you within 10 minutes of meeting him. He doesn't give a flying fuck about losing his job because he knows within a week he will reach out to his vast network and be hired instantly.

sleeper;1618384 wrote:More fail advice from the Boomer generation who don't have a clue on how the world works. Not saying it never works or doesn't add some value, but the reality is with online applications any attempts to contact a hiring manager at best will result in you being entirely ignored.

Not always the case.

I really think the best advice for a college grad is to network the fuck out of everyone you know. My friend is extremely good at this, despite being of average at best intelligence, he will have your business card and be connected on linkedin with you within 10 minutes of meeting him. He doesn't give a flying fuck about losing his job because he knows within a week he will reach out to his vast network and be hired instantly.

Idiotic statement at best. Networking is crucial, but you still need to get after it--if you don't, someone else will.

vball10set;1618388 wrote:Not always the case.




Idiotic statement at best. Networking is crucial, but you still need to get after it--if you don't, someone else will.

There should be a law against Boomer's given advice to recent college graduates. They don't have a clue on how the job market works. Hell, I graduated with high honors from the greatest school in the country and still think its pure luck that I have a great job that I obtained strictly through networking.

Not sure how networking and "getting after it" aren't a significant overlap.

Pet peeve are people who say "it's not what you know, it's who you know", but use it as an excuse instead of using that knowledge to formulate a plan.

queencitybuckeye;1618392 wrote:Not sure how networking and "getting after it" aren't a significant overlap.

Pet peeve are people who say "it's not what you know, it's who you know", but use it as an excuse instead of using that knowledge to formulate a plan.

Getting after it implies relentlessly following up is how people get jobs; the reality is people get jobs because of who they know and that is a result of networking. The only people you should follow up with are those in your network; not some random joe who's going to ignore you anyway. Again, Boomer's are clueless on how the job market works.

*giving....and you don't know me, so please don't attempt to lecture me on how "the job market works"...trust me. The only thing you've said so far (other than your networking advice) that has any cred is that it's "pure luck you have a job". Period.

I'm actually not even sure why I bother sometimes 'debating' with Boomers. They don't get it and they never will. They aren't called 'the worst generation' for nothing.

sleeper;1618380 wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.

Gonna be in Chicago anytime soon?

sleeper;1618395 wrote:I'm actually not even sure why I bother sometimes 'debating' with Boomers. They don't get it and they never will. They aren't called 'the worst generation' for nothing.

lol

sleeper;1618393 wrote:Getting after it implies relentlessly following up is how people get jobs; the reality is people get jobs because of who they know and that is a result of networking. The only people you should follow up with are those in your network; not some random joe who's going to ignore you anyway. Again, Boomer's are clueless on how the job market works.

Yet I hire people and every one of them is more accomplished than you. I'll try not to lose sleep over your opinion.

vball10set;1618394 wrote:*giving....and you don't know me, so please don't attempt to lecture me on how "the job market works"...trust me. The only thing you've said so far (other than your networking advice) that has any cred is that it's "pure luck you have a job". Period.

I don't have to know you. I saw your advice and its typical of the delusional boomer generation in which you are a part of. Therefore, I will lump you into my boomer model and disregard anything you say because you don't know how the world works much less the job market. Please do not hand out your advice anywhere but in the privacy of your own mind; young people don't need to be poisoned with your level of delusion.

Agreed on the pure luck part; I got the job because I went to a networking event and met an OSU alum who worked in my sector. After graduation I sent him an email explaining that I was looking for a career and he immediately had me come in for an interview. This is how you get a job; not relentlessly applying for jobs online and following up with hiring managers who don't have time to deal with an inexperience grad out of college.

sleeper;1618380 wrote:I'll believe it when I see it.

Now you know how the rest of us feel after virtually every post you make about how successful/rich/whatever that you are!

queencitybuckeye;1618398 wrote:Yet I hire people and every one of them is more accomplished than you. I'll try not to lose sleep over your opinion.

I'm not concerned with any of your opinions. They are irrelevant to reality and I live in reality.

Heretic;1618400 wrote:Now you know how the rest of us feel after virtually every post you make about how successful/rich/whatever that you are!

My comment is more tongue in cheek about OU grads. The reality is, I am successful and I make good money. It's irrelevant if people on this forum or elsewhere think otherwise.

SportsAndLady;1618396 wrote:Gonna be in Chicago anytime soon?

Maybe. I don't have any current plans to visit there; however I'll let you know. I'd love to see an OU grad making it in the real world.

sleeper;1618403 wrote:Maybe. I don't have any current plans to visit there; however I'll let you know. I'd love to see an OU grad making it in the real world.

You let me know sleeper.

SportsAndLady;1618405 wrote:You let me know sleeper.

I'll be there in a couple weeks, but I am not sure if sleeper would trust me to gather the evidence.

sleeper;1618399 wrote:I don't have to know you. I saw your advice and its typical of the delusional boomer generation in which you are a part of. Therefore, I will lump you into my boomer model and disregard anything you say because you don't know how the world works much less the job market. Please do not hand out your advice anywhere but in the privacy of your own mind; young people don't need to be poisoned with your level of delusion.

Agreed on the pure luck part; I got the job because I went to a networking event and met an OSU alum who worked in my sector. After graduation I sent him an email explaining that I was looking for a career and he immediately had me come in for an interview. This is how you get a job; not relentlessly applying for jobs online and following up with hiring managers who don't have time to deal with an inexperience grad out of college.

The only one delusional here is you. You truly are clueless, and based on your nonsensical posts, I'll assume unemployed as well...amirite?