Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

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Laley23
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Jul 9, 2014 11:35am
If almost think LBJ would rather Wiggins over Love. He seems like he would thrive on a teaching a young kid everything.
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Commander of Awesome
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Jul 9, 2014 11:48am
Love can't play def or stay healthy. Gets a bunch of garbage boards and shoots 3. Wiggins is a fucking stud defender, good rebounder, and insane athlete. Wiggins by a mile.
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 11:52am
Laley23;1634242 wrote:If almost think LBJ would rather Wiggins over Love. He seems like he would thrive on a teaching a young kid everything.
I would almost think that in the meetings when the Cavs spilled out their plan for LBJ that he would have given the OK for these moves, or am I wrong? He is probably thinking more short term over having Wiggins learn the NBA game while he is trying to get anothe rring.
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Laley23
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Jul 9, 2014 11:54am
Playing along with LeBron and Kyrie, wiggins needs about 2 months to learnt he game.
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 11:56am
Laley23;1634245 wrote:Playing along with LeBron and Kyrie, wiggins needs about 2 months to learnt he game.
Just saying.......The cavs obviously laid out their vision to him and with all these rumors of him going back he must have liked what he had heard.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:01pm
thavoice;1634246 wrote:Just saying.......The cavs obviously laid out their vision to him and with all these rumors of him going back he must have liked what he had heard.
Geezus, just stfu.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:01pm
If you can get Kevin Love, you do it. He is a proven great player. There is no guarantee that Wiggins is anything (see Anthony Bennett)
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Jul 9, 2014 12:05pm
thavoice;1634244 wrote:I would almost think that in the meetings when the Cavs spilled out their plan for LBJ that he would have given the OK for these moves, or am I wrong? He is probably thinking more short term over having Wiggins learn the NBA game while he is trying to get anothe rring.
thavoice;1634246 wrote:Just saying.......The cavs obviously laid out their vision to him and with all these rumors of him going back he must have liked what he had heard.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:05pm
jordo212000;1634249 wrote:If you can get Kevin Love, you do it. He is a proven great player. There is no guarantee that Wiggins is anything (see Anthony Bennett)
Sigh..they aren't even comparable prospects. And fyi- jury is still out on bennett
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jordo212000
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Jul 9, 2014 12:09pm
If you are Cleveland, you do what you have to do to get him... But part of you wonders if anybody is remembering what happened the last time they let LeBron play GM
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Jul 9, 2014 12:15pm
jordo212000;1634254 wrote:If you are Cleveland, you do what you have to do to get him... But part of you wonders if anybody is remembering what happened the last time they let LeBron play GM
I haven't forgotten. As soon as I saw this Allen/Mike Miller stuff I was thinking "oh boy, here we go again." Only difference is that there's already young talent in place.
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 12:15pm
like_that;1634248 wrote:Geezus, just stfu.
You have a problem asshole?

Some on here are questioning some of the possible deals and all I am saying that if it is good enough for LeBron, then it should be OK enough for the fans to accept. Everything they are doing, or attempting to do, is to lure him. They gave him the best sales pitch they could and a blueprint for a championship team around him in quick fashion. They are just trying to execute that plan so he signs.

I understand you hate me and always have to talk shit, and that is fine, but would Cav fans rather have Love and James or Wiggins and no James if that indeed is what they pitched to him and got the green light from the king?
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Jul 9, 2014 12:20pm
thavoice;1634260 wrote:You have a problem asshole?

Some on here are questioning some of the possible deals and all I am saying that if it is good enough for LeBron, then it should be OK enough for the fans to accept. Everything they are doing, or attempting to do, is to lure him. They gave him the best sales pitch they could and a blueprint for a championship team around him in quick fashion. They are just trying to execute that plan so he signs.

I understand you hate me and always have to talk shit, and that is fine, but would Cav fans rather have Love and James or Wiggins and no James if that indeed is what they pitched to him and got the green light from the king?
You follow about 0% of the NBA. You don't know wtf you are talking about. We have never seen you in this thread nor the NBA thread before. All of a sudden Lebron rumors heat up and you appear on this thread to spew your classic reverse jinx bs. So yes, you can fuck off. I rather discuss the cavs with posters who are legitimately interested.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:22pm
Lol I love idiots speculating on sports rumors. Cracks me up
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 12:29pm
like_that;1634264 wrote:You follow about 0% of the NBA. You don't know wtf you are talking about. We have never seen you in this thread nor the NBA thread before. All of a sudden Lebron rumors heat up and you appear on this thread to spew your classic reverse jinx bs. So yes, you can fuck off. I rather discuss the cavs with posters who are legitimately interested.
So what have I said that was incorrect? You dont think the Cavs gave James their best sales pitch to have him return? You dont think they gave him some insight on whom they are going to try to bring in to entice him to come back and win quickly? All the rumors point that there is a good chance of him coming back so he must have liked what they were trying to sell.

Dont use your hatred towards me to cloud your thinking in that what I am saying has legit points to it. Everything they are attempting to do is with LBJ in mind and was pitched to him before they started to roll the dice.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:32pm
SportsAndLady;1634141 wrote:I just can't honestly see why you would post that Drose story about the pickup game lol

I mean what the fucking fuck?

And I know rob, I know...you're just repeating what you heard. But a homeless lady yesterday told me that Nicholas cage owes her $1B, that doesn't mean I post it on here.
We were talking about Rose and I thought it was interesting so I posted it. Doesn't mean I endorse his opinion or that it's true just one professionals opinion. Don't see why uoi are taking it so serious when it's not.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:33pm
thavoice;1634266 wrote:So what have I said that was incorrect? You dont think the Cavs gave James their best sales pitch to have him return? You dont think they gave him some insight on whom they are going to try to bring in to entice him to come back and win quickly? All the rumors point that there is a good chance of him coming back so he must have liked what they were trying to sell.

Dont use your hatred towards me to cloud your thinking in that what I am saying has legit points to it. Everything they are attempting to do is with LBJ in mind and was pitched to him before they started to roll the dice.
Because you're clearly connected with Dan Gilbert and the FO of the Cleveland cavaliers. Right?
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 12:35pm
SportsAndLady;1634268 wrote:Because you're clearly connected with Dan Gilbert and the FO of the Cleveland cavaliers. Right?
About as much as anyone else on here is!

So you dont think they gave him their best sales pitch and now are trying to follow up and do what they were hoping to lure him?

Of course they are.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:36pm
thavoice;1634266 wrote:So what have I said that was incorrect? You dont think the Cavs gave James their best sales pitch to have him return? You dont think they gave him some insight on whom they are going to try to bring in to entice him to come back and win quickly? All the rumors point that there is a good chance of him coming back so he must have liked what they were trying to sell.

Dont use your hatred towards me to cloud your thinking in that what I am saying has legit points to it. Everything they are attempting to do is with LBJ in mind and was pitched to him before they started to roll the dice.
Didn't read.


Anyway, when is lebrons meeting with Riley today? Might as well get this shit over with. If Lebron signs and no trade has been done, then the cavs will have more leverage for love.
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thavoice
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Jul 9, 2014 12:37pm
like_that;1634271 wrote:Didn't read.


Anyway, when is lebrons meeting with Riley today? Might as well get this shit over with. If Lebron signs and no trade has been done, then the cavs will have more leverage for love.
yeah, you read it but dont have a rebuttal. Nice try you fucking asshat
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like_that
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Jul 9, 2014 12:40pm
thavoice;1634272 wrote:yeah, you read it but dont have a rebuttal. Nice try you fucking asshat
I really didn't, but whatever makes you feel better. I typically scroll passed your long winded posts filled with no substance. It's like reading the dumb version of o trap.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:44pm
like_that;1634274 wrote:I really didn't, but whatever makes you feel better. I typically scroll passed your long winded posts filled with no substance. It's like reading the dumb version of o trap.
I do that too. Going to stop reading them on here from here on out.

Hoping something happens soon, I'm sick of the speculation.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:46pm
Miller and Allen would help tremendously if Lebron goes to Cleveland, you need to surround him with shooting and those are two of the best snipers in the game, and they have played in huge games. The experience factor is real. Mike Miller shot 46% from three last year which is unreal and Ray Allen is one of the best clutch shooters ever.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:50pm
SportsAndLady;1634208 wrote:Ray Allen is the luckiest sports player in the world over the last 5 years or so. Just always on the best teams.
It's not luck. He earned it by being the best 3 point shooter in the league's history and can still contribute.
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Jul 9, 2014 12:55pm
IMO no chance in hell Wiggins goes to Minny

1) Minny has no leverage
2) the cavs never leak anything, so now it's leaked Wiggins is being discussed? fat chance
3) Neither D12, Melo, nor Harden returned anything close to a Wiggins level prospect
4) we have more than enough ammo to get Love without giving up Wiggins