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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Jun 30, 2014 6:04pm
DuncanLaley23;1631709 wrote:DeMarcus Cousins is a headcase who doesnt yet know how to win...will he get there? Who knows. The talent is definitely there to be a star though.
Pts - 15
Reb - 10
Ast - 2
FG % 490
Cousins
Pts - 23
Reb - 12
Ast - 3
FG % - .500
What is Cousins doing that is counter-productive to winning when compared with Duncan? Other than being on a team with shit teammates and a sub par coach?
Duncan is the best PF of all-time, but Cousins is better at this moment. No real debating that to anyone that's watched both play this past season.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:17pm
FIFY. People forget all the years Duncan played Center after the Admiral left. He even played Center quite a bit this past season with Splitter on the bench. He was skilled enough to play both, and played both quite a bit.Maybe just call him a big?HelloAgain;1631710 wrote:Duncan
Pts - 15
Reb - 10
Ast - 2
FG % 490
Cousins
Pts - 23
Reb - 12
Ast - 3
FG % - .500
What is Cousins doing that is counter-productive to winning when compared with Duncan? Other than being on a team with shit teammates and a sub par coach?
Duncan is the best PF/C of all-time, but Cousins is better at this moment. No real debating that to anyone that's watched both play this past season.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Jun 30, 2014 6:21pm
TrueCommander of Awesome;1631711 wrote:FIFY. People forget all the years Duncan played Center after the Admiral left. He even played Center quite a bit this past season with Splitter on the bench. He was skilled enough to play both, and played both quite a bit.Maybe just call him a big?
Don't want my argument to seem like I'm detracting from Duncan at all. He's the best PF ever, and to be as effective as he is at his age is possibly his greatest accomplishment of all. But I think the fact the Spurs really don't have a single player I'd classify as a "star" makes their success all the more impressive, and diminshes the argument that super teams are necessary because you can't win without multiple "stars" in today's NBA.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 30, 2014 6:23pm
You seriously dont consider Parker a star?HelloAgain;1631712 wrote:True
Don't want my argument to seem like I'm detracting from Duncan at all. He's the best PF ever, and to be as effective as he is at his age is possibly his greatest accomplishment of all. But I think the fact the Spurs really don't have a single player I'd classify as a "star" makes their success all the more impressive, and diminshes the argument that super teams are necessary because you can't win without multiple "stars" in today's NBA.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:31pm
This is a Cavs thread, DGAF about Tim Duncan in here.
Buddy of mine said he thinks Cavs go after Gordan Hayward from Utah to play the 2/3 with Wiggins playing the other postion and Dion going to the bench. Depending on the contract, I wouldn't QQ.
Buddy of mine said he thinks Cavs go after Gordan Hayward from Utah to play the 2/3 with Wiggins playing the other postion and Dion going to the bench. Depending on the contract, I wouldn't QQ.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Jun 30, 2014 6:43pm
I think you have to start considering a lot of PG's stars if Parker is one.Laley23;1631713 wrote:You seriously dont consider Parker a star?
Even so, that would give them one "star" not multiple.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Jun 30, 2014 6:47pm
Gordan Hayward will get a max or close to Max dealCommander of Awesome;1631716 wrote:This is a Cavs thread, DGAF about Tim Duncan in here.
Buddy of mine said he thinks Cavs go after Gordan Hayward from Utah to play the 2/3 with Wiggins playing the other postion and Dion going to the bench. Depending on the contract, I wouldn't QQ.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 30, 2014 6:49pm
Demarcus Cousins is a star, he made that clear with his play this year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:50pm
A max for him? Yikes. Good player, but don't think he's worth a max. Maybe I'm wrong though, barely watched any Jazz games this past season.gport_tennis;1631718 wrote:Gordan Hayward will get a max or close to Max deal
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 30, 2014 6:50pm
Parker is a star PG. A good amount of PG's are stars.HelloAgain;1631717 wrote:I think you have to start considering a lot of PG's stars if Parker is one.
Even so, that would give them one "star" not multiple.
Ginobili is also a star, he's arguably the 2nd best SG in the game.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 30, 2014 6:52pm
He's a lesser Joe Johnson. Two teams (PHX and ATL) have moved JJ because he wasn't truly worth max money. No thanks on Gordon if he wants the max.Commander of Awesome;1631721 wrote:A max for him? Yikes. Good player, but don't think he's worth a max. Maybe I'm wrong though, barely watched any Jazz games this past season.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:52pm
Harden, Kobe, Klay Thompson, Beal were 4 SGs off the top of my head I'd rather have then Ginobili.lhslep134;1631722 wrote:Parker is a star PG. A good amount of PG's are stars.
Ginobili is also a star, he's arguably the 2nd best SG in the game.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 30, 2014 6:55pm
I would love Gordon Hayward in Cleveland. I think he's a stud. He was on my fantasy team so I watched quite a bit of jazz games last year.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jun 30, 2014 6:56pm
Hayward is restricted. A deal is going to have to be close to max for there to be any chance of Utah not matching.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:56pm
Wow, 2 conflicting reports. Rob won't know which position to take now. I'll wait for my judgement on Hayward until I hear from Robdynasty1998, God's gift to the OC NBA threads.SportsAndLady;1631725 wrote:I would love Gordon Hayward in Cleveland. I think he's a stud. He was on my fantasy team so I watched quite a bit of jazz games last year.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 30, 2014 6:57pm
Gordon is going to get a max from Boston, if nowhere else. Im pretty sure Brad Stevens has said he really wants to team back up with Hayward.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2014 6:58pm
Well alright, Hayward won't be coming to Cleveland sounds like. Fun thought for the 3 min it lasted.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 30, 2014 7:03pm
Nothings really conflicting, a lesser Joe Johnson is still a really really good player lol. I like Heyward a lot, but not at max money.Commander of Awesome;1631727 wrote:Wow, 2 conflicting reports. Rob won't know which position to take now. I'll wait for my judgement on Hayward until I hear from Robdynasty1998, God's gift to the OC NBA threads.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 30, 2014 7:05pm
Talking purely about production this past year, Ginobili was the 2nd best SG.Commander of Awesome;1631724 wrote:Harden, Kobe, Klay Thompson, Beal were 4 SGs off the top of my head I'd rather have then Ginobili.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 30, 2014 9:14pm
Bradley Beal but no Wade, smh.Commander of Awesome;1631724 wrote:Harden, Kobe, Klay Thompson, Beal were 4 SGs off the top of my head I'd rather have then Ginobili.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 30, 2014 9:15pm
I like Hayward, you're welcome lolCommander of Awesome;1631727 wrote:Wow, 2 conflicting reports. Rob won't know which position to take now. I'll wait for my judgement on Hayward until I hear from Robdynasty1998, God's gift to the OC NBA threads.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 30, 2014 9:32pm
Wade sucks. Drop it.robj55;1631756 wrote:Bradley Beal but no Wade, smh.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 30, 2014 9:36pm
SportsAndLady;1631761 wrote:Wade sucks. Drop it.
haha 42% from the field vs 55%, you guys are hilarious.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 30, 2014 9:41pm
Beal's allure is that he's got star potential and is only 21. With that said, Wade put up better numbers in every category. Oh, and this is maybe the first thread someone else brought up DeMarcus Cousins!
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jun 30, 2014 9:43pm
His jaw has gotta get sore at some point. But wtf does this hafta do with the cavs?