pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Jul 19, 2014 9:16am
I cant believe Golden State would ever give up Lee, Barnes and Klay and I can't believe the Cavs would be that dumb also to give up two number 1 picks and future picks.
Love is really good but he is not an elite player. I would only make those trades for LeBron our Durant.
Love is really good but he is not an elite player. I would only make those trades for LeBron our Durant.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 19, 2014 9:21am
The stupid thing is, regardless of what Love brings to the table right now, that production is not going to continue if he comes to the Cavs. The Wolves have NO ONE. He shoots it a ton there, so he should average a bunch of points. If he comes to the Cavs, he will sit between 17-18 points just like Bosh did for Miami. The biggest questions for me is, "can that production be replicated by the assets we would be giving up?" My answer would be yes.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 19, 2014 10:25am
Nice to see the last few posts have sense to them. Kudos 👍
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 19, 2014 10:35am
http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/14/usa-basketball-roster-2014-mens-national-team-training-camp
Hope Kyrie makes the 12 man roster, that would be great for him.
Hope Kyrie makes the 12 man roster, that would be great for him.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 19, 2014 10:47am
Is Lebron not playing in Spain?like_that;1637382 wrote:http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/14/usa-basketball-roster-2014-mens-national-team-training-camp
Hope Kyrie makes the 12 man roster, that would be great for him.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 19, 2014 10:58am
No.SportsAndLady;1637384 wrote:Is Lebron not playing in Spain?
This is basically just a tryout for the Olympic team.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 19, 2014 11:27am
Probably 2 weeks behind but Love for Bennett and Wiggins
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 19, 2014 11:39am
Come on...Ironman92;1637393 wrote:Probably 2 weeks behind but Love for Bennett and Wiggins
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 19, 2014 1:30pm
Lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 19, 2014 1:47pm
LeBron likely headed to the Cavs?
Continue on guys.
Continue on guys.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 19, 2014 1:54pm
Bosh is Houston bound.Ironman92;1637415 wrote:LeBron likely headed to the Cavs?
Continue on guys.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jul 19, 2014 10:04pm
I'm going to be very pissed if Wiggins is traded
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 19, 2014 10:35pm
Yeah, that'll really be a detriment to the Pistons.Classyposter58;1637468 wrote:I'm going to be very pissed if Wiggins is traded
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 19, 2014 11:23pm
Uhhh this is the Cleveland thread.Classyposter58;1637468 wrote:I'm going to be very pissed if Wiggins is traded
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 20, 2014 6:50pm
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jul 20, 2014 9:35pm
Russilo just tweeted that there's 2 rumors going around. 1, that Minn agreed to Wiggins, Bennett and a 1st deal, but then backed out wanting more. 2, that Wiggins was never offered.
If the first 1is true,I'm now in the camp of GFY Minn.
If the first 1is true,I'm now in the camp of GFY Minn.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 20, 2014 9:45pm
Mulva;1636966 wrote:There's a cap hold for first round picks. It doesn't count as $0.
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636968 wrote:Isnt there a cap hold since he's a rookie. He's not signed but there's a scaled value as a guaranteed rookie contract.
lhslep134;1636973 wrote:Shit yeah you're right good call. I know we're signing him for 120% of the slot but I forgot the cap hold is there even without the signature for trading purposes.
But it's only for $5M so we'd still need to give up more than just Bennett, so how can that really be considered a lesser package?
I knew it, I was right. Wiggins counts as $0 going to Minnesota if he's unsigned.
"Draft picks (both first and second round) count $0 for salary matching purposes. Once the draft pick signs a contract, his actual salary becomes his trade value."
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q87
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 20, 2014 10:01pm
I feel he was never offered up. There is just no fathomable way Minnesota doesn't pull the trigger if the Cavs offered that.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 20, 2014 10:05pm
Definitely agree. But whatever, if the media wants to be pieces of shit, let them be pieces of shit.Laley23;1637563 wrote:I feel he was never offered up. There is just no fathomable way Minnesota doesn't pull the trigger if the Cavs offered that.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Jul 20, 2014 10:07pm
Hopefully Chris Broussard will never be heard from again after this season. I'm so sick of his sources and him just throwing shit out there
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 21, 2014 4:14am
Wiggins was 100% offered. I have no fucking clue was Minny was thinking turning down Wiggins/Bennett
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 21, 2014 7:56am
Maybe they want more than just Love for that package. I certainly want more if Wiggins is included, especially Wiggins AND BENNETT.ohiobucks1;1637570 wrote:Wiggins was 100% offered. I have no fucking clue was Minny was thinking turning down Wiggins/Bennett
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 21, 2014 8:09am
I still am hesitant to believe that deal was even offered. Why would minny turn down an offer for back to back #1 overall picks, one of which is considered a valuable prospect, for a player they are gonna lose in 11 months?
Keep in mind that most of these stories are released to the public for a reason, and a lot of them probably untrue.
Keep in mind that most of these stories are released to the public for a reason, and a lot of them probably untrue.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 21, 2014 8:26am
I think it's the Wolves stirring up shit to try to extract more value from other teams. Minnesota would be stupid to turn down Wiggins and I don't think the Cavs are actually willing to give him up either.SportsAndLady;1637578 wrote:I still am hesitant to believe that deal was even offered. Why would minny turn down an offer for back to back #1 overall picks, one of which is considered a valuable prospect, for a player they are gonna lose in 11 months?
Keep in mind that most of these stories are released to the public for a reason, and a lot of them probably untrue.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jul 21, 2014 9:06am
Sleeper with the win!sleeper;1637582 wrote:I think it's the Wolves stirring up shit to try to extract more value from other teams. Minnesota would be stupid to turn down Wiggins and I don't think the Cavs are actually willing to give him up either.