They've done plenty of studies on prayer and found almost zero correlation with it affecting the health of individuals(or anything for that matter). Wikipedia has a great summary but feel free to read into each individual study. The reality is science is not going to waste their time on this kind of bullshit anymore.

[LEFT]Krucoff has been studying prayer and spirituality since 1996 -- and practicing it much longer in his patient care. Earlier studies of the subject were small and often flawed, he says. Some were in the form of anecdotal reports: "descriptions of miracles ... in patients with cancer, pain syndromes, heart disease," he says."[Today,] we're seeing systematic investigations -- clinical research -- as well as position statements from professional societies supporting this research, federal subsidies from the NIH, funding from Congress," he tells WebMD. "All of these studies, all the reports, are remarkably consistent in suggesting the potential measurable health benefit associated with prayer or spiritual interventions."[/LEFT]

a new release that documents nearly 1,200 studies done on the effects of prayer on health.[LEFT]These studies show that religious people tend to live healthier lives. "They're less likely to smoke, to drink, to drink and drive," he says. In fact, people who pray tend to get sick less often, as separate studies conducted at Duke, Dartmouth, and Yale universities show. Some statistics from these studies:[/LEFT]

• [LEFT]Hospitalized people who never attended church have an average stay of three times longer than people who attended regularly.[/LEFT]
• [LEFT]Heart patients were 14 times more likely to die following surgery if they did not participate in a religion.[/LEFT]
• [LEFT]Elderly people who never or rarely attended church had a stroke rate double that of people who attended regularly.[/LEFT]
• [LEFT]In Israel, religious people had a 40% lower death rate from cardiovascular disease and cancer.[/LEFT]

Did you read anything of the article...at all?

I want to see an experiment where they take two people, shoot them both in their femoral artery and have one person be sent to the hospital for doctors to heal and the other sent to church where an entire group just prays for them. Would you sign you or your children up for the one who gets the prayers? LOL

HitsRus;1605762 wrote:I can be even more juvenile than you! I want to see an experiment where 5000 people pray to hit the lottery just to see the state lottery director go bonkers!

It's a shit article confusing correlation with causation

HitsRus;1605772 wrote:you mean like evolution, string theory?

Millions pray to win the lottery and I imagine someone who had prayed for a win actually won; GOD EXISTS

HitsRus;1605775 wrote:Did I say that? ... yet that is the juvenile proof you demand. God don't care about baseball or the lottery, slick.

Does God care about the millions of children in Africa who die of HIV every year? I bet they just aren't praying hard enough! LOL

HitsRus;1605779 wrote:I tried to explain inductive reasoning to you before....you accept it for some things and not others. Is evolution a concluded fact or just a thoery?

HitsRus;1605781 wrote:There you go again with that stupid stuff. I've explained it to you twice. on this threaad in the past 5 days.

BoatShoes;1605710 wrote:You must have missed this part:



Which you thankfully provided as proof all on your own. LOL!

jmog;1605814 wrote:Did you not see the one that had a half life of 24 days? Come on man, do I have to point out every single thing you just happen to skip over out of convenience?

You also completely ignore the fact that your original post that I quoted was 100% wrong about the Thorium isotope possibilities in the U-Pb decay chain. You 100% picked the wrong Thorium because you typed in thorium half life, saw one with a huge number to fit your belief, and copy/pasted. Come on, you can admit it when you are proven wrong, it is possible.

Let's pick easy numbers so that it is easy for you.

Let's say there is this mixture of isotopes in a Zirconium rock when the rock is first formed.

1000 Uranium 238 atoms
1000 Thorium 234 atoms
0 Lead 206 atoms

In less than 1 year the rock would contain

1000 Uranium 238 atoms
0 Thorium 234 atoms
1000 Lead 206 atoms

Just one single year...

Now, if I date that same rock using the current U-Pb dating method and current assumptions...I get a date of 2.2 billion years! Why? because I assumed that since I see no Thorium, there never was any Thorium...I see Uranium, so it must have all came from Uranium.

It is exactly like the baseball analogy I gave earlier, something (Thorium or outfielder) disappears from view and this leads to vastly different predictions/outcomes of the past origin.

It is not that hard to see how possible the scenario is when you look at it with an open mind and a little understanding of the science behind it instead of blind hatred.

pmoney25;1605818 wrote:Jmog, You may have already answered but do you believe it is possible for the earth to be billions of years old or do you think the science around aging is 100% wrong?

pmoney25;1605818 wrote:Jmog, You may have already answered but do you believe it is possible for the earth to be billions of years old or do you think the science around aging is 100% wrong?

cruiser_96;1605850 wrote:Im not jmog, but there is no biblical statement that tesricts the earth to 6,000 to 10,000 years old. There is an undetermined amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.

cruiser_96;1605850 wrote:Im not jmog, but there is no biblical statement that tesricts the earth to 6,000 to 10,000 years old. There is an undetermined amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.

sleeper;1605861 wrote:And even if there was, it would all be made up anyway like everything else in the bible.

jmog;1605869 wrote:So are you saying that the Babylonian Empire didn't exist, didn't have a king named Nebuchadnezzar, that the Jews weren't enslaved for generations by the Egyptians, that a historical figure named Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist and wasn't known as a rabbi?

The whole book is just made up?

sleeper;1605861 wrote:And even if there was, it would all be made up anyway like everything else in the bible.

sleeper;1605877 wrote:Correct. There are plenty of books that use historical figures or themes in it but are 100% made up. The bible is no different and I can't believe you are older than 15 and still believe its non-fiction. Time to grow up.