Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:54pm
Back to some action. Does UMass have an answer for Jarnell Stokes? LaLanne is a decent big, but Stokes has developed into a commanding force. He actually is very similar to Carlos Boozer, the way he really reformed his conditioning and touch.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 21, 2014 2:54pm
I just had that conversation with a coworker. There's no excuse for them to not be able to get a big manAutomatik;1594410 wrote:I don't understand why he keeps playing that style. It blows my mind. You're Coach K, you're fucking DUKE! Recruit talent for a balanced system. It's not like they can only get guys who can run this guard happy chucking offense. It seems like every time Duke goes down it's because the 3s didn't fall.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:56pm
If you're a big man, why would you commit to Duke when you know they don't utilize you?dlazz;1594426 wrote:I just had that conversation with a coworker. There's no excuse for them to not be able to get a big man
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 21, 2014 2:58pm
There are probably plenty of big men who would commit just to say they played for Coach K.SportsAndLady;1594428 wrote:If you're a big man, why would you commit to Duke when you know they don't utilize you?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:58pm
Well, next year they have the #1 center in Okafor, Jefferson and Plumlee will be Juniors. However, they lose Thornton and Dawkins to graduation and likely Hood, Parker and possibly Suliamon to the NBA.
Their team will have a completely different look (and maybe, for the better) next year.
Their team will have a completely different look (and maybe, for the better) next year.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 21, 2014 2:59pm
Okafor is vastly overrated. I watched him several times this year and was not impressed.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 3:01pm
No there aren't.dlazz;1594434 wrote:There are probably plenty of big men who would commit just to say they played for Coach K.
Or else you'd, you know, see some C's commit to K.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 3:03pm
The whole class is. Similar to the 2012 class...
That's why I'm somewhat happy with UK's class. They have 3 guys who don't have the highest NBA ceiling, but are actually polished offensive players who aren't rated high because of athleticism and potential (Towns, Lyles and Ullis).
We've been burned by Alex Poythress, Marcus Lee, Archie Goodwin and a few others...who look like freaks for their position but when it comes to basics like shooting, dribbling and decision-making, were very overrated. If you're a one and done (like Okafor), I'd much rather be polished and able to make an impact quicker.
That's why I'm somewhat happy with UK's class. They have 3 guys who don't have the highest NBA ceiling, but are actually polished offensive players who aren't rated high because of athleticism and potential (Towns, Lyles and Ullis).
We've been burned by Alex Poythress, Marcus Lee, Archie Goodwin and a few others...who look like freaks for their position but when it comes to basics like shooting, dribbling and decision-making, were very overrated. If you're a one and done (like Okafor), I'd much rather be polished and able to make an impact quicker.
wildcats20
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Mar 21, 2014 3:04pm
If I'm a talented big man, I am pretty much going anywhere except Durham.
Laley23
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Mar 21, 2014 3:05pm
Id be headed to Arizona, Florida, MSU, Kansas or UNC. No way I go near Duke.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 21, 2014 3:05pm
Oh OK.SportsAndLady;1594438 wrote:No there aren't. .
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 3:06pm
Well, Jones and Okafor did say they wanted to play together. It's also a lot harder to judge the impact of a big man in college too. A lot has to do with the situation and role they are put into. Usually, a Freshman at another position is much easier to evaluate his impact much earlier.
Look at Andre Drummond. He sucked in college. Look at DeAndre Jordan his Freshman year. Barely played. Those guys really blossomed at 21 or so, well after their college days.
Look at Andre Drummond. He sucked in college. Look at DeAndre Jordan his Freshman year. Barely played. Those guys really blossomed at 21 or so, well after their college days.
ernest_t_bass
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Mar 21, 2014 3:07pm
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 21, 2014 3:07pm
Yeah, I was gonna say Kansas is probably my top choice.Laley23;1594448 wrote:Id be headed to Arizona, Florida, MSU, Kansas or UNC. No way I go near Duke.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 3:07pm
Gimme UK. Every big Calipari has recruited has been a first round pick. Cauley-Stein, Dakari Johnson and Randle will continue that trend.Laley23;1594448 wrote:Id be headed to Arizona, Florida, MSU, Kansas or UNC. No way I go near Duke.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 3:09pm
Name a Kansas big who hasn't disappointed in the NBA.wildcats20;1594454 wrote:Yeah, I was gonna say Kansas is probably my top choice.
Cole Aldrich and Thomas Robinson, they spent multiple years in college and now their NBA careers are about the same as mine...
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 21, 2014 3:09pm
If I'm a Center I'd go to MSU or UK
Azubuike24
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Mar 21, 2014 3:10pm
If UMass doesn't rebound, they are going to lose by 20+...
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 21, 2014 3:12pm
Im talking about getting minutes and playing through me.Azubuike24;1594457 wrote:Name a Kansas big who hasn't disappointed in the NBA.
Cole Aldrich and Thomas Robinson, they spent multiple years in college and now their NBA careers are about the same as mine...
Anyone could have Anthony Davis and Nerlens Noel and claim they are great with bigs.
I would add UK to my list, but not for the reasons of others schools bigs sucking in the NBA.
Anthony Davis at MSU or Kansas would have been JUST as dominant as he was at UK.
Its just that Cal is able to recruit those players more than the other coaches.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 3:16pm
Depends on what kind. If I'm a legit 7-footer who isn't needing the game to run through him and can rebound/defend, how much better could it get than UK? I mean, Davis, Noel and Cauley-Stein took their defensive games to another level by basically being given free reign with a defense that is constantly switching and feeding the ball-handler to the middle.
With that said, I don't go to UK if I want an offense run through me. Then again, I wouldn't go to Kansas for that either. Michigan State, Arizona and...Georgetown...surprisingly. The problem is at Georgetown you may not have the talent around you.
With that said, I don't go to UK if I want an offense run through me. Then again, I wouldn't go to Kansas for that either. Michigan State, Arizona and...Georgetown...surprisingly. The problem is at Georgetown you may not have the talent around you.
Azubuike24
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Mar 21, 2014 3:19pm
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the_system
Posts: 465
Mar 21, 2014 3:21pm
Baylor getting 48 foul shots to their 16 had a lot to do with it.ou1980;1594374 wrote:What's the story on Miles getting tossed from Nebraska.....
Baylor broke the record for most free throw attempts with 11 minutes left in the game. It's like the state of texas got together and was like 'Nebraska's coming back to town? Let's screw them again.'
Crimson streak
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Mar 21, 2014 3:22pm
Lmao that's awesomeAzubuike24;1594462 wrote:
Laley23
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Mar 21, 2014 3:23pm
I was watching on mute at work, and early on Nebraska was getting hosed, imo. Miles was getting pissed. Then I went to lunch and didnt see the rest, but if it continues, its not surprising he got tossed. They were getting bent over pretty hard.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 21, 2014 3:23pm
I hope Wragge breaks his wrist.