Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:24pm
Does conference really matter in this tournament?SportsAndLady;1594375 wrote:This pretty much proves my point that the ACC was not a top conference, even at the top half.
Their conference RPI of 5th in the country pretty much was right on.
Iowa, Nebraska and Ohio State were a joke. Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin were absolutely dominant.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh crushed their opponents. Duke was terrible and NC State choked away a huge 2nd half lead.
The only conference you can really say was overrated is the AAC. Cincinnati loses, Louisville and Connecticut were extremely close to losing.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Mar 21, 2014 2:26pm
NC State screwed up, no doubt, but let's see how UNC and UVA plays,SportsAndLady;1594375 wrote:This pretty much proves my point that the ACC was not a top conference, even at the top half.
Their conference RPI of 5th in the country pretty much was right on.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:27pm
Duke going down to Mercer, NC State going down to an A-10 team, etc. ACC losing to inferior opponents, not just Dukefriendfromlowry;1594383 wrote:Or, Duke just continues to lose/nearly lose to supposedly inferior teams in the tournament.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 21, 2014 2:28pm
It's hard to make a case for the AAC too. The committee shit on them, and it's just largely proving to be correct.Azubuike24;1594384 wrote:Does conference really matter in this tournament?
Iowa, Nebraska and Ohio State were a joke. Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin were absolutely dominant.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh crushed their opponents. Duke was terrible and NC State choked away a huge 2nd half lead.
The only conference you can really say was overrated is the AAC. Cincinnati loses, Louisville and Connecticut were extremely close to losing.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:28pm
It doesn't matter, but I was just saying that since there was some discussion yesterday about the ACC being the best conference in the country. Of which I disagreed.Azubuike24;1594384 wrote:Does conference really matter in this tournament?
Iowa, Nebraska and Ohio State were a joke. Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin were absolutely dominant.
Syracuse and Pittsburgh crushed their opponents. Duke was terrible and NC State choked away a huge 2nd half lead.
The only conference you can really say was overrated is the AAC. Cincinnati loses, Louisville and Connecticut were extremely close to losing.
It's not a big deal
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 21, 2014 2:28pm
Just saw a crazy stat about Duke... They have the worst winning percentage (69.2%) of any top 3 seed in the tournament over the last 10 years that have played at least 10+ games as a top 3 seed.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 21, 2014 2:30pm
So...one other team then. I'm not disagreeing with you, but how about waiting to see how the other teams do first.SportsAndLady;1594387 wrote:Duke going down to Mercer, NC State going down to an A-10 team, etc. ACC losing to inferior opponents, not just Duke
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:30pm
When a single conference runs off 5+ titles in a row or starts to put 50% in the Elite 8 on a consistent basis, we can start talking conferences. In college basketball, in a one-and-done format, nothing is more overrated.
For instance, over the last 20 years, the SEC is 2nd in titles and in Final Fours (I believe only the ACC has more). However, 5 of their 6 titles and 8 of their 14 Final Fours were Kentucky or Florida. Outside of a few schools, the conference sucks. The same can be said if you take Duke and Carolina out of the ACC...
For instance, over the last 20 years, the SEC is 2nd in titles and in Final Fours (I believe only the ACC has more). However, 5 of their 6 titles and 8 of their 14 Final Fours were Kentucky or Florida. Outside of a few schools, the conference sucks. The same can be said if you take Duke and Carolina out of the ACC...
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ou1980
Posts: 877
Mar 21, 2014 2:31pm
Bo Pellini on twitter...
"Can I get fined if I talk about the NCAA basketball refs?"
lol!!!
"Can I get fined if I talk about the NCAA basketball refs?"
lol!!!
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 21, 2014 2:32pm
Duke finished with 38 three attempts. That has to be a season high
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 21, 2014 2:35pm
Bo should learn one sport before he takes on a second.ou1980;1594393 wrote:Bo Pellini on twitter...
"Can I get fined if I talk about the NCAA basketball refs?"
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:35pm
Duke made 15 three pointers today. One the entire season (32 total games), South Florida only made 97.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 21, 2014 2:35pm
Against Mercer. Embarrassing they couldn't get the ball inside offensively against a team like this. Like Duke didn't play bad at all, they actually weren't good enoughdlazz;1594394 wrote:Duke finished with 38 three attempts. That has to be a season high
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:36pm
Okfriendfromlowry;1594391 wrote:So...one other team then. I'm not disagreeing with you, but how about waiting to see how the other teams do first.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 21, 2014 2:36pm
Going to continue, this is the day a 16 gets it done.SportsAndLady;1594387 wrote:Duke going down to Mercer, NC State going down to an A-10 team, etc. ACC losing to inferior opponents, not just Duke
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:36pm
Like, wut?Classyposter58;1594398 wrote:Like Duke didn't play bad at all, they actually weren't good enough
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:37pm
You think Virginia goes down? That'd be insanequeencitybuckeye;1594401 wrote:Going to continue, this is the day a 16 gets it done.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 21, 2014 2:37pm
Credit: Upper90 on Facebook
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 21, 2014 2:37pm
This doesn't really surprise me. Aside from their 2010 national championship, how many other times have they under-performed? Mercer this year, Lehigh in 2012, almost lost to Belmont in 2008, VCU in 2007.Iliketurtles;1594390 wrote:Just saw a crazy stat about Duke... They have the worst winning percentage (69.2%) of any top 3 seed in the tournament over the last 10 years that have played at least 10+ games as a top 3 seed.
Coach K's strategy of shooting too many threes and never attacking the basket is getting old and predictable.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:38pm
Sure, NCSU blew the lead, but St. Louis was a 3.5 point favorite...SportsAndLady;1594387 wrote:Duke going down to Mercer, NC State going down to an A-10 team, etc. ACC losing to inferior opponents, not just Duke
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 21, 2014 2:41pm
lol'dts1227;1594404 wrote:
Credit: Upper90 on Facebook
Awesome.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:41pm
Okay i'll explain again. Some were saying the ACC was arguably the best conference in the country. The best conference in the country just had a team lose to an Atlantic 10 team, and an Atlantic Sun team. Doesn't help the argument.Azubuike24;1594406 wrote:Sure, NCSU blew the lead, but St. Louis was a 3.5 point favorite...
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:41pm
I don't understand why he keeps playing that style. It blows my mind. You're Coach K, you're fucking DUKE! Recruit talent for a balanced system. It's not like they can only get guys who can run this guard happy chucking offense. It seems like every time Duke goes down it's because the 3s didn't fall.friendfromlowry;1594405 wrote:This doesn't really surprise me. Aside from their 2010 national championship, how many other times have they under-performed? Mercer this year, Lehigh in 2012, almost lost to Belmont in 2008, VCU in 2007.
Coach K's strategy of shooting too many threes and never attacking the basket is getting old and predictable.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 21, 2014 2:50pm
And I agree with your premise of the ACC, Duke backs it up, but NCSU, who shouldn't even have gotten in, doesn't.SportsAndLady;1594409 wrote:Okay i'll explain again. Some were saying the ACC was arguably the best conference in the country. The best conference in the country just had a team lose to an Atlantic 10 team, and an Atlantic Sun team. Doesn't help the argument.
Big XII was the deepest league. Their teams that didn't make the tournament, outside of TCU, were competitive. Both Texas Tech and West Virginia weren't pushovers. Every other league had at least 2 pushovers...some had many more. The ACC had 4 or 5...
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 21, 2014 2:53pm
If youre arguing for best conference in the country, one of your better teams shouldn't lose to a mid major team. All I'm saying. I realize they were the underdog in Vegas.Azubuike24;1594418 wrote:And I agree with your premise of the ACC, Duke backs it up, but NCSU, who shouldn't even have gotten in, doesn't.
Big XII was the deepest league. Their teams that didn't make the tournament, outside of TCU, were competitive. Both Texas Tech and West Virginia weren't pushovers. Every other league had at least 2 pushovers...some had many more. The ACC had 4 or 5...