Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 30, 2014 10:31pm
Obviously the team has work to do. Loved what I saw out of JT Barrett. At the end of last season, I was hoping Miller would (attempt) to go pro. The Buckeyes won't win a championship with Miller behind center. They can with a championship with a QB like JT Barrett. Meyer has a tough decision to make come next season.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 30, 2014 10:35pm
Can't believe we agree on something Picky. Barrett is going to get better. Miller had peaked IMO...and it wasn't a high caliber peak.
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vball10set
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Aug 31, 2014 7:01am
1-0
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 9:46am
Not overly impressed with the game yesterday, but of course I'll take it. I'd like to think the defensive issues were due to the gimmick offense ran by Navy.
I really don't know anything about this VT team, but I'm assuming we are in for a legitimate test.
I really don't know anything about this VT team, but I'm assuming we are in for a legitimate test.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 31, 2014 9:54am
You can't be seriousPick6;1649189 wrote:Obviously the team has work to do. Loved what I saw out of JT Barrett. At the end of last season, I was hoping Miller would (attempt) to go pro. The Buckeyes won't win a championship with Miller behind center. They can with a championship with a QB like JT Barrett. Meyer has a tough decision to make come next season.
There will be no championship this year for OSU
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 10:00am
Trollololol
I just disregarded that post.
I just disregarded that post.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 31, 2014 10:02am
Did I say anything about a championship this season?SportsAndLady;1649287 wrote:You can't be serious
There will be no championship this year for OSU
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 31, 2014 10:14am
Who's the last QB who hasn't been able to throw to win a NC? Miller has never won a meaningful game at OSU, unless you want to count the UM game as meaningful even though they are trash. He's not a great QB. The only reason he has had any success at the collegiate level is because of his running ability.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 31, 2014 10:18am
OSU adjusted well at halftime to being too aggressive defensively. They did not want Reynolds to beat them and forced the ball to go to the slots more than most teams do. That strategy worked well as the game went on and the QB rushing numbers show it. That approach also lent to the turnovers which were a big hit to Navy including the missed field goal which might as well be the same as a turnover.
Navy's defense had a pretty good day considering the pressure they were able to put on the Bucks early.
Entertaining game in the end which is why I like following Navy football.
Navy's defense had a pretty good day considering the pressure they were able to put on the Bucks early.
Entertaining game in the end which is why I like following Navy football.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 31, 2014 10:19am
No Nat Champ but they can win the East of the B1G and then let the chips fall where they may in the Conf Champ. VT is a legit test - Defense needs to make a bigger step this week than the Off IMO.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 10:26am
But Barrett against Navy showed you that he has what it takes? LOLPick6;1649292 wrote:Who's the last QB who hasn't been able to throw to win a NC? Miller has never won a meaningful game at OSU, unless you want to count the UM game as meaningful even though they are trash. He's not a great QB. The only reason he has had any success at the collegiate level is because of his running ability.
I'm guessing by "hasn't been able to throw" you mean a dual threat QB. So, Tim Tebow...heard of him?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 31, 2014 10:43am
If Tebow didn't have Percy Harvin nobody would know who this turd is. He made Tebow and Tebow was exposed when Harvin left.
Pick6
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Aug 31, 2014 11:01am
The comment wasn't implying all dual threat QBs. There are dual threat QBs that can manage to complete basic passes. You point out Tim Tebow (which I knew was coming). Well as bad as he was, he still completed 7% more of his passes than Miller against much better competition and was apparently good enough to get taken in the 1st round. Miller will go low round-undrafted.Automatik;1649296 wrote:But Barrett against Navy showed you that he has what it takes? LOL
I'm guessing by "hasn't been able to throw" you mean a dual threat QB. So, Tim Tebow...heard of him?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 11:11am
Who gives a shit where Tebow was drafted, where is he now? They both will share the same NFL fate.
Your comment regarding Barrett being able to take OSU to the promise land after one game, against Navy, blows my fucking mind. :laugh:
Your comment regarding Barrett being able to take OSU to the promise land after one game, against Navy, blows my fucking mind. :laugh:
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 31, 2014 11:36am
I tend to blow minds every now and then. Barrett will accomplish more in his career than Miller ever did. It's really not hard to beat when you look at quality. Barrett had the best debut out of any OSU QB since at least 2001 (per 11w), against arguably the best competition as well. Navy is a solid team.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 11:47am
What are you basing these claims on? 11w? Are you aware if Millers career numbers? Unless you are taking about Big 10 titles and more...which Barrett very well could do. But I need to see more. MUCH more.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 31, 2014 12:02pm
The claims are my own. The debut stat is from 11w. I'm sure Miller's total TDs and rushing are great. I'm sure he has some high yardage passing games as well throwing to a wide open Devin Smith a few times. You aren't going to win anything of importance with a QB who can't throw. All Barrett has to do is win a B1G title, win a bowl game, any bowl game, and he will be more successful than Miller in my mind. I can see the potential Barrett has and have no reason to believe he won't realize it under Meyer. I've seen enough to be a believer, you want to see much more. That seems to be the disconnect.Automatik;1649310 wrote:What are you basing these claims on? 11w? Are you aware if Millers career numbers? Unless you are taking about Big 10 titles and more...which Barrett very well could do. But I need to see more. MUCH more.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Aug 31, 2014 12:16pm
Braxton was a 63% passer and a 1000 yard rusher last season. Any argument saying he isn't a great QB is moronic
Automatik
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Aug 31, 2014 12:20pm
But did you see Barrett's HS highlight tape? That pass to a wide open Smith? WOW!
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vball10set
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Aug 31, 2014 1:03pm
Easy, fellas, a win is a win, and JT is our QB, not Brax...next...
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Aug 31, 2014 1:08pm
From my perspective, Barnett made one stupid mistake, but also made some good plays and didn't seem that over his head while playing a decent (ie: higher-tier than MAC/Sun Belt; lower-tier than a legit upper-division power conference foe) opponent. While the offensive gameplan generally was the most vanilla I've ever seen a Meyer offense run.
Decent building block, but no way I'd personally say this game was any sort of indication as to how good Barnett's career will be compared to Miller. I'll probably be able to formulate more of an opinion on that after the next few games where he'll be both playing quality opponents (to show how he's growing as a QB from week to week) and a gimme in Kent State where he'll hopefully be able to show more stuff (with hopefully a more open playbook since it's a weak opponent).
Decent building block, but no way I'd personally say this game was any sort of indication as to how good Barnett's career will be compared to Miller. I'll probably be able to formulate more of an opinion on that after the next few games where he'll be both playing quality opponents (to show how he's growing as a QB from week to week) and a gimme in Kent State where he'll hopefully be able to show more stuff (with hopefully a more open playbook since it's a weak opponent).
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 31, 2014 1:13pm
I can already tell the constant comparisons of Barrett to miller is going to be the most annoying talk on here.
Every play will be an analysis of how Braxton would have done in the same situation.
Fuckin kill me
Every play will be an analysis of how Braxton would have done in the same situation.
Fuckin kill me
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Aug 31, 2014 1:14pm
Agree with herteic. Va tech will be able to throw some things at him navy couldn't. Looking forward to seeing him progress.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 31, 2014 1:16pm
I'm all for Barrett becoming a baller, so you won't see that from me. I just get a kick out of the talk like he's the 2nd coming when in reality, we don't know shit.SportsAndLady;1649342 wrote:I can already tell the constant comparisons of Barrett to miller is going to be the most annoying talk on here.
Every play will be an analysis of how Braxton would have done in the same situation.
Fuckin kill me
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Aug 31, 2014 1:17pm
Shut the fuck up pick