NFL 2014 Offseason Thread

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Mar 14, 2014 11:48pm
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Mar 15, 2014 5:16am
Laley23;1590636 wrote:those are 2 different posters...
Ironman92;1590664 wrote:wkfan
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Derp. Fail on me.
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Mar 15, 2014 9:06am
like_that;1590689 wrote:Derp. Fail on me.
I thought they were the same as well until I looked it up.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:14am
Packers are signing Julius Peppers to a 3-year deal. Seems like too long for a guy as old as him, but haven't seen the details yet

EDIT: Max $30m, $7.5m guaranteed. The guaranteed seems reasonable.
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Mar 15, 2014 4:19pm
Edelman resigns with the Pats.
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Mar 17, 2014 6:39pm
James Jones is headed to the Raiders
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thavoice
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Mar 18, 2014 10:05am
GoChiefs;1590876 wrote:Edelman resigns with the Pats.
Smart move on his part.
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Mar 18, 2014 10:27am
thavoice;1592348 wrote:Smart move on his part.
Yea, I don't think he ever planned on leaving.
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thavoice
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Mar 18, 2014 10:39am
Apparently Bridgewater had a bad pro day. They showed a number of his attempts and it looked pretty bad. Wonder if that will change anyones mind.
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Mar 18, 2014 2:29pm
Pro days are so dumb, show me the game film. Game film tells me he was the best last year. The combine is overrated for a lot of these guys. Except for the guys that don't play on a big stage.
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thavoice
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Mar 18, 2014 3:40pm
shook_17;1592585 wrote:Pro days are so dumb, show me the game film. Game film tells me he was the best last year. The combine is overrated for a lot of these guys. Except for the guys that don't play on a big stage.
I agree. I think a Pro day can only hurt some guys. I mean, come on. There is no defense, no rush, you are EXPECTED to make those throws easily so when you do it is shrugged off.
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Mar 18, 2014 3:44pm
JaMarcus Russell disagrees.
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queencitybuckeye
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Mar 18, 2014 4:19pm
shook_17;1592585 wrote:Pro days are so dumb, show me the game film. Game film tells me he was the best last year. The combine is overrated for a lot of these guys. Except for the guys that don't play on a big stage.
This. Take your "measurables" and pro days and build a team. I'll get some football players and beat your ass.
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Mar 18, 2014 4:23pm
lol, internet forum experts.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 4:33pm
queencitybuckeye;1592657 wrote:This. Take your "measurables" and pro days and build a team. I'll get some football players and beat your ass.
unless you're the Browns, then you'll just fuck around and continue to be mediocre forever.
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Mar 18, 2014 4:36pm
Automatik;1592659 wrote:lol, internet forum experts.
Like the guy who posted below you who probably watches 2 games a year.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 4:38pm
like_that;1592667 wrote:Like the guy who posted below you who probably watches 2 games a year.
butthurt browns fan detected.
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Mar 18, 2014 4:44pm
dlazz;1592668 wrote:butthurt browns fan detected.
Not at all, i have been through way too much as a browns fan to let a hermit who knows nothing about football to affect me. Anyway, Id like to know what you would have done with the browns the last 3 years. Care to throw out something that we haven't said yet? You apparently have it figured out for that organization.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 4:59pm
like_that;1592670 wrote:Not at all, i have been through way too much as a browns fan to let a hermit who knows nothing about football to affect me. Anyway, Id like to know what you would have done with the browns the last 3 years. Care to throw out something that we haven't said yet? You apparently have it figured out for that organization.
The "spring cleaning" they did recently needed to happen about 7 years ago, not now. I stand by my QB comment. I'm not sold on any of the QB's in this draft class. Bridgewater didn't play anybody in college, neither did Bortles or Derek Carr so you have absolutely no idea what you're getting. Johnny Manziel is the only one who played anyone and he ran a spread/pass-happy offense in college, so he isn't even going to be ready (and might not ever be). He's also going to be a huge TO liability because of his small size, poor decision making, and tendency to take off and run. Not to mention his obviously demonstrated lack of maturity that will likely lead to off-the-field issues.

Pick up Vick in FA, fall back on Hoyer if/when he gets hurt, and get some other weapons. You can draft at virtually any other position.

If they pick up one of those QB's, there's a really good chance they're going to throw him into the fire in his first season and they'll be right back where they've been the past 934819232 times they've drafted a QB in the first round.
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Mar 18, 2014 5:08pm
dlazz;1592677 wrote:The "spring cleaning" they did recently needed to happen about 7 years ago, not now. I stand by my QB comment. I'm not sold on any of the QB's in this draft class. Bridgewater didn't play anybody in college, neither did Bortles or Derek Carr so you have absolutely no idea what you're getting. Johnny Manziel is the only one who played anyone and he ran a spread/pass-happy offense in college, so he isn't even going to be ready (and might not ever be). He's also going to be a huge TO liability because of his small size, poor decision making, and tendency to take off and run. Not to mention his obviously demonstrated lack of maturity that will likely lead to off-the-field issues.

Pick up Vick in FA, fall back on Hoyer if/when he gets hurt, and get some other weapons. You can draft at virtually any other position.

If they pick up one of those QB's, there's a really good chance they're going to throw him into the fire in his first season and they'll be right back where they've been the past 934819232 times they've drafted a QB in the first round.
Pretty much your comments on the QB has already been discussed numerous times amongst browns fans. Not to mention most of us who want a QB say he should be on the sideline for year 1. As for Vick.... Excuse me while I LMAO.

Continue acting like you have it all figured out over everyone else though. It's good for a laugh.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 5:16pm
like_that;1592685 wrote:As for Vick.... Excuse me while I LMAO.
Is it really that laughable? You have a "capable" backup in Hoyer. Everyone has already shown that they're not interested in Vick so you can probably get him cheap. Why not ride him into the ground, pick up LBs/OL/WR's whatever in the draft, and then get a QB next year?

I admit I don't follow NFL as much as college football, but I follow both. I just have no vested interest in pro teams. Doesn't mean I don't watch it, I just have a bias-free view of teams, unlike most of the people in the Browns thread.
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Mar 18, 2014 5:27pm
dlazz;1592688 wrote:Is it really that laughable? You have a "capable" backup in Hoyer. Everyone has already shown that they're not interested in Vick so you can probably get him cheap. Why not ride him into the ground, pick up LBs/OL/WR's whatever in the draft, and then get a QB next year?

I admit I don't follow NFL as much as college football, but I follow both. I just have no vested interest in pro teams. Doesn't mean I don't watch it, I just have a bias-free view of teams, unlike most of the people in the Browns thread.
You make it seem like Browns fans come up with these outlandish predictions for out team. Maybe 2 posters per year predict a playoff appearance (one of them being durkie who predicts it every year), but for the most part we are pretty realistic about our team. You obviously don't pay much attention to the Browns thread, outside the occasional running jokes, that you have ran to the ground.

Also, yes it is laughable to think Vick is a legitimate choice for a starter. Do you not remember how horrible he was the last "full" season he played? Rather save the cap space and ride out Hoyer while we groom a rookie behind him. Also, not everyone is pushing for a QB with the first pick. So, please try harder.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 5:30pm
like_that;1592699 wrote:we are pretty realistic about our team.
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Mar 18, 2014 5:32pm
dlazz;1592701 wrote:
So you are just throwing shit at a wall to see if sticks? Got it. Thanks for playing.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 18, 2014 5:33pm
like_that;1592705 wrote:So you are just throwing shit at a wall to see if sticks? Got it. Thanks for playing.
No. I plead my case and you immediately disregarded it. I'll guess I'll just fall back into my LOL BROWNS mentality.


Way to make the Browns fanbase look dense, LOLFAIL.