Tiernan;1562166 wrote:They deserve to get the "I told ya so"... they played 3 legit games this year and lost 2 of them and needed a last second miracle to win the third. Bloom is off the rose Urbie.

agreed

The biggest, imo, and most surprising disappointment was the play of our O-line, especially Mewhort. They were flat out played. Period.

Pretty much says it all, and this includes Shazier himself and Jack Mewhort-and I think they'd both agree.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2014/01/31815/ohio-state-football-quotebook-clemson-orange-bowl#more

There was talk all week about the Ohio State defensive starters who were missing and how it represented major problems for the Buckeyes. As it turned out, Bell, Armani Reeves and Jamal Marcus played well. It was some of the veterans who no-showed.[INDENT]
“I feel like the young guys, they were ready and prepared to play,” junior linebacker Ryan Shazier said. “Vonn and Armani and Jamal, I felt like they really stepped up when we needed them to.”
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Looking at you CJ Barnett

Plenty of blame to pass around on that one. Philly was actually having a very good game until the blunder of blunders. Coaching gags late hurt us. When its all said and done we all were expecting this...why are we now shocked?

OSU is now 279-1 all-time when scoring 35 points

The "super coach" that everyone was wringing their hands over worrying about whether he would leave retirement to come save our program has gagged two in a row to middle of the road younger guys who will be both be rising on the coaching hierarchy.

Didn't even take time to go back and read much of this thread after the game last nite. I am sure it was almost all about Miller being so bad and causing the loss. Anyone who thinks that, is just flat out ignorant in my book. Yes, he made some poor decisions. But bottom line, like it has been, the DEFENSE just flat sucks. Players not executing and the defensive coaching just sucks. Unreal how many WIDE open receivers, missed tackles, etc, etc.
This was OSU first loss EVER when the offense has scored 35+ pts. EVER!! 35 pts by offense, should win you the game, period.
Obviously, the turning point was Brown fumble. I feel OSU was going to roll over Clemson had that not happened.
Some serious changes need to happen on defense, coaching and players.
Go Bucks!

centralbucksfan;1562199 wrote:I am sure it was almost all about Miller being so bad and causing the loss.

It wasn't. That ire was directed at the defense

vball10set;1562161 wrote:Defense not adjusting to the bubble screen (all night long)

OMFG how could they not adjust to that?

vball10set;1562161 wrote:My head tells me 12-2 is a good season, but my heart tells me otherwise.

12-2 is a good season, but when the 2 comes at the end it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Reminds me of the Cooper years.

Tiernan;1562186 wrote:When its all said and done we all were expecting this...why are we now shocked?

Pretty much. I actually expected much worse...

Tiernan;1562194 wrote:The "super coach" that everyone was wringing their hands over worrying about whether he would leave retirement to come save our program has gagged two in a row to middle of the road younger guys who will be both be rising on the coaching hierarchy.

Meh, I think you're over reacting a little bit here.

Tiernan;1562194 wrote:The "super coach" that everyone was wringing their hands over worrying about whether he would leave retirement to come save our program has gagged two in a row to middle of the road younger guys who will be both be rising on the coaching hierarchy.

Let me ask you a question. Coming off of a 6-7 season, if someone told you Meyer would come in, go undefeated, then go 12-2, 24-2 over two seasons, put OSU in a position to maybe play for national title by season 2, what would you have said Mr. Genius? I think just about ANY OSU fan would have taken that in a heart beat, and also said no way in hell would that happen. Meyer has ONLY been here for two years. His first recruiting class is only the SOPH class.
This WIN right NOW mentality, is unrealistic. Yes, it happens on occasion, but its rare that it happens that quickly.
OSU is in GREAT hands and is prepped to contend for national title for years to come with Meyer running the show.

FatHobbit;1562235 wrote:OMFG how could they not adjust to that?



12-2 is a good season, but when the 2 comes at the end it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Reminds me of the Cooper years.



Pretty much. I actually expected much worse...



Meh, I think you're over reacting a little bit here.

Care to add anything?

centralbucksfan;1562245 wrote:Let me ask you a question. Coming off of a 6-7 season, if someone told you Meyer would come in, go undefeated, then go 12-2, 24-2 over two seasons, put OSU in a position to maybe play for national title by season 2, what would you have said Mr. Genius? I think just about ANY OSU fan would have taken that in a heart beat, and also said no way in hell would that happen. Meyer has ONLY been here for two years. His first recruiting class is only the SOPH class.
This WIN right NOW mentality, is unrealistic. Yes, it happens on occasion, but its rare that it happens that quickly.
OSU is in GREAT hands and is prepped to contend for national title for years to come with Meyer running the show.

Don't waste your breath

Sober now but still pissed.


Things that need to happen:


1. Demote Fickell
2. Fire Coombs
3. Tell Whithers to GTFO
4. Tell Herman to stop being a ***** in big games
5. Tell Braxton to GTFO (start Barrett)
6. Tell Devin Smith to sit some lumber
7. Tell Philly Brown thanks but you fucked us in your last game
8. Tell Roby to see ya never, not playing like a puss.
9. Give mad props to Von Bell and demote fickell a second time for not getting him on the field until this game
10. Get excited for EZE to start


I think if we do those 10 things well have a nice shot for a Natty next year

ohiobucks1;1562264 wrote: 3. Tell Whithers to GTFO

This is like the 10th time ive seen this posted over multiple forums. Do some of you people not really follow this team? WITHERS IS ALREADY LEAVING. HE ACCEPTED THE HC JOB AT JMU

LJ;1562266 wrote:This is like the 10th time ive seen this posted over multiple forums. Do some of you people not really follow this team? WITHERS IS ALREADY LEAVING. HE ACCEPTED THE HC JOB AT JMU

I know. They should have said it before the bowl game. Was merely reiterating the point. Should have changed it to "see ya never".



p.s - I probably follow them quite a bit more than you . Were you there last night? Are you currently watching the Army All-American game? Do you have subscriptions to Bucknuts and Rivals? Probs not lol. Only kidding though.

LJ;1562266 wrote:Do some of you people not really follow this team?

I told you before, some of us aren't nearly as enlightened as you.

believer;1562270 wrote:I told you before, some of us aren't nearly as enlightened as you.

Umm.... You're an idiot.

Seems as though there's a lot of umad in this thread.

LJ;1562272 wrote:Umm.... You're an idiot.

They may follow OSU more, know more...but they sure don't present themselves as so. Perception is probably reality.

centralbucksfan;1562279 wrote:They may follow OSU more, know more...but they sure don't present themselves as so. Perception is probably reality.

Da fuq are you saying?

ohiobucks1;1562264 wrote: 5. Tell Braxton to GTFO (start Barrett)


I think if we do those 10 things well have a nice shot for a Natty next year

LOL.


Posted this earlier in the Thread.


Yeah the people who are excited or want Braxton to leave have no idea whats about to come our way if he does.

Cardale, hasn't thrown a pass in a real game, in like 3 years.

JT Barrett, hasn't played a single snap, in 2 years, and coming off an ACL

Stephen Collier- Senior in HS currently, rated as a 3 star.

Really want that instead of Braxton? Tells me all I need to know about you and your credibility.

HighRoller74;1562290 wrote:LOL.


Posted this earlier in the Thread.


Yeah the people who are excited or want Braxton to leave have no idea whats about to come our way if he does.

Cardale, hasn't thrown a pass in a real game, in like 3 years.

JT Barrett, hasn't played a single snap, in 2 years, and coming off an ACL

Stephen Collier- Senior in HS currently, rated as a 3 star.

Really want that instead of Braxton? Tells me all I need to know about you and your credibility.

Reps on that. Some people are really clueless. Yes, Braxton didn't play great last nite. But first give credit to Clemson, they had a great plan to contain his running. Second, our Oline didn't exactly protect him real well. He wasn't just bumped around, he was lit up on more than one occasion. But he sucked it up, and stayed in the game and did what he could do considering he was running for his life most of the time. I couldn't believe OSU wouldn't keep a RB in the backfrield to help with protection. I do like Herman as the OC...but I also scratch my head on occasion. But again, when your offense scores 35 pts, you should win the game, period. Our defense consistently put our offense in a situation to HAVE to score to stay in the game. That's a lot of pressure and unrealistic expectations. But again, after this entire season where the OSU offense literally shattered almost every offensive record in OSU history, I can't listen to people rip Braxton or our offense. Anyone with an ounce of common sense, knows where the major issue is. DUH

believer;1562270 wrote:I told you before, some of us aren't nearly as enlightened as you.

Enlightened? Do you NOT read the sports section of ANY paper outside of the Athens Messenger?