Archive 2014 Ohio State Football Discussion

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 1:09pm

Please provide a link Mr. Genius. I didn't see shit in my 15 second 11W search.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Sep 17, 2014 1:33pm

Just because Sage (or whoever) compared a freshman QB to a good QB two decades ago doesn't mean shit you dumbass

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Sep 17, 2014 1:35pm

Automatik;1654898 wrote:Please provide a link Mr. Genius. I didn't see shit in my 15 second 11W search.

Literally took me 16 seconds

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014/09/40532/barretts-blazing-start-freshman-quarterback-on-pace-for-great-numbers

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 1:43pm

So basically it talks about the records that could be broken IF he keeps up his current pace.

Pick 6 is a fucking clown. One of those guys who gets, and stays, butthurt if someone disagrees with him. :laugh:

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Sep 17, 2014 2:02pm

Pick6;1654888 wrote:11w now comparing Barrett to Joe Germaine.

Calling that article a comparison between Barrett and Germaine is beyond a massive reach. Get a clue dude

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Sep 17, 2014 2:03pm

Lol butthurt is butthurt

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 2:12pm

Agreed, you would know.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Sep 17, 2014 2:12pm

I actually kinda like J.T. Not nearly as dynamic as Braxton, but by his senior year, he should be dirty.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Sep 17, 2014 2:21pm

I can't see how any Buckeye fan couldn't like JT. I mean, look at what this kid has done with not only an inexperienced line, but not having played for two years as well...I can't wait to see what the future has in store for him!

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Sep 17, 2014 2:29pm

vball10set;1654938 wrote:I can't see how any Buckeye fan couldn't like JT. I mean, look at what this kid has done with not only an inexperienced line, but not having played for two years as well...I can't wait to see what the future has in store for him!

I think most like him

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Sep 17, 2014 2:48pm

SportsAndLady;1654948 wrote:I think most like him

I like him a lot and think he has a ton of potential, especially considering, as Vball said, he went about two years without playing and is essentially being thrown into the fire.

I just don't see the need to get all super-hyped about how amazing he is right now when he's clearly still a work in progress. He looked like garbage (with a lot of help from receivers, his line, etc.) against V-Tech and then looked great against a vastly inferior Kent State team. To use that game as some sort of "I TOLD YOU SO!" talking point is almost as stupid as the people who wanted Guiton to start every single time Braxton showed any flaws because of how Kenny G balled the fuck out of the 1-AA school. I mean, I noticed improvement in a lot of aspects against KSU, but I think I'll withhold any "he's great!" talk until he does big things in big games.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 2:48pm

^This guy gets it.

No one is hating on JT.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Sep 17, 2014 2:57pm

My post was piggy backing on ohiobucks' post is all, and was not inferring that anyone was hating on JT...and fwiw, I also agree with Heretic's post.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Sep 17, 2014 3:01pm

Heretic;1654961 wrote: almost as stupid as the people who wanted Guiton to start every single time Braxton showed any flaws because of how Kenny G balled the fuck out of the 1-AA school

I wanted Guiton to start but not because of his stats, but because his throwing ability was better than Braxton's. Look, I love Braxton but the fact of the matter is this: in our two big games against talented teams last year (MSU and Clemson) we simply couldn't string drives together because Braxton couldn't put passes where they needed to be. His running ability won us games, but those were also games we would have won if Braxton was a better passer.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 3:04pm

He was also let down on the other side of the ball time and time again, but we all know that.

I like our potential with Barrett, but I still need to see a lot more.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Sep 17, 2014 3:13pm

forgot about this guy..

http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/420555

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Sep 17, 2014 4:25pm

Automatik;1654976 wrote:He was also let down on the other side of the ball time and time again, but we all know that.

Most definitely. But we had the ball with a chance to win both games and both times Braxton came up short. Now is where I go on a little bit of a rant:

We need a real passer who happens to be somewhat mobile. You watch the Eagles? Chip doesn't ask Foles to be Michael Vick on the read-run, he asks him to be Nick Foles . I'm sick of the Terrelle Pryor/Braxton Miller types who are amazing runners but can't throw and it causes us to lose games that are winnable for someone with actual arm talent.**

It's great that their legs can bail them out, but I want a freaking passer who can bail us out with his arm. Hopefully JT can develop into that.

**I know that sounds extremely spoiled, but as Buckeyes fans we're allowed to want more out of our team with all of the resources at our disposal.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Sep 17, 2014 4:28pm

Lol at pick6 getting pwned.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 4:33pm

lhslep134;1655016 wrote:Most definitely. But we had the ball with a chance to win both games and both times Braxton came up short. Now is where I go on a little bit of a rant:

We need a real passer who happens to be somewhat mobile. You watch the Eagles? Chip doesn't ask Foles to be Michael Vick on the read-run, he asks him to be Nick Foles . I'm sick of the Terrelle Pryor/Braxton Miller types who are amazing runners but can't throw and it causes us to lose games that are winnable for someone with actual arm talent.**

It's great that their legs can bail them out, but I want a freaking passer who can bail us out with his arm. Hopefully JT can develop into that.

**I know that sounds extremely spoiled, but as Buckeyes fans we're allowed to want more out of our team with all of the resources at our disposal.

I understand where you're coming from, but I still can't put much blame on Miller. The coaching staff and defense lost those games. People tend to forget that our receivers are very very average. Much like you want a QB that can be trusted to win with his arm, I want that freak receiver that he can just chuck it to.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Sep 17, 2014 6:45pm

Before Automatik tries to save face anymore..

Automatik;1651348 wrote:LOL JT IS A BUM. Nice floater.

Automatik;1651381 wrote:I've seen enough from Barrett to know he'll never be half the player that BM is. I'll be waiting to see his nutswingers to eat their crow. The kids pocket awareness is atrocious. It's definitely not all on him, but he blow.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Sep 17, 2014 7:22pm

No need to save face.

That was a terrible pass and be played like dogshit. I was also hammered and angry. I'm sorry I won't be jumping on the kid's jock after he lit up mighty Kent State.

Let me guess, you were all over Zwick too back in the day?

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Sep 17, 2014 8:04pm

Miller, like Pryor, is an athlete who uses his legs to play QB. Neither is an accurate passer. Period. JT at least appears to be a QB who can pass, yet still run when he needs to....time will tell.