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sportchampps

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Dec 14, 2013 10:21 PM
I hate country music but I'm digging the Zac brown band with David growl. I like all the tracks they have released on iTunes together.

pop hasn't always sucked it once gave us artists like the beatles.
Dec 14, 2013 10:21pm
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Dec 15, 2013 3:33 AM
lol @ sleeper.

It's like Sheldon talking to his mother on Big Bang Theory..

"Mom evolution is a scientific fact"

"And that is just your opinion Sheldon!" haha
Dec 15, 2013 3:33am
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Dec 15, 2013 8:24 AM
dlazz;1553265 wrote:Epic used to get regular airplay on 103.9 in Dayton, but then they switched formats and got all shitty.
word.

kinda remember Epic still getting air time years ago.
Dec 15, 2013 8:24am
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Dec 15, 2013 8:40 PM
Me?;1547715 wrote:I do think that music has steadily improved though, it's just that now the best stuff is rarely what makes the mainstream radio.
This is where I disagree with you. If the music was "good", it would be mainstream. I think its just trendy to like music no one has heard of, makes people feel good about themselves when they tell other people about bands they don't know about.

granted I have no background in music, I just like what I hear. and when people play music that is non mainstream but they claim is a good band, I rarely agree.
Dec 15, 2013 8:40pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:46 PM
Name a band or solo artist that released their first record post 2000 that will be considered legendary or great 50 years from now.
Dec 15, 2013 8:46pm
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MontyBrunswick

Dec 15, 2013 8:47 PM
pmoney25;1553853 wrote:Name a band or solo artist that released their first record post 2000 that will be considered legendary or great 50 years from now.
Eminem
Dec 15, 2013 8:47pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 15, 2013 8:52 PM
dlazz;1553854 wrote:Eminem
Maybe you misunderstood the question.
Dec 15, 2013 8:52pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:52 PM
pmoney25;1553853 wrote:Name a band or solo artist that released their first record post 2000 that will be considered legendary or great 50 years from now.






that was easy
Dec 15, 2013 8:52pm
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MontyBrunswick

Dec 15, 2013 8:54 PM
Sonofanump;1553857 wrote:Maybe you misunderstood the question.
Oh, so you don't like him so that means nobody else does either.

Cool.
Dec 15, 2013 8:54pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:54 PM
pmoney25;1553853 wrote:Name a band or solo artist that released their first record post 2000 that will be considered legendary or great 50 years from now.
Dec 15, 2013 8:54pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:55 PM
dlazz;1553854 wrote:Eminem
1999 Slim Shady LP. But I will give you that one.

I do think the reason people say that is since 2000, Rock music has been put on the back burner. Yes great stuff has been released but this past decade has been the first where Rock at least on the mainstream level is not relevant
Dec 15, 2013 8:55pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 15, 2013 8:56 PM
dlazz;1553860 wrote:Oh, so you don't like him so that means nobody else does either.

Cool.
His first release does not post-date 2000.
Dec 15, 2013 8:56pm
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MontyBrunswick

Dec 15, 2013 8:56 PM
Another one that came to mind was Muse. I don't think they've put out an album I don't like, but that's just me.
Dec 15, 2013 8:56pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:56pm
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MontyBrunswick

Dec 15, 2013 8:56 PM
Sonofanump;1553864 wrote:His first release does not post-date 2000.
Close enough
Dec 15, 2013 8:56pm
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Dec 15, 2013 8:59 PM
dlazz;1553865 wrote:Another one that came to mind was Muse. I don't think they've put out an album I don't like, but that's just me.
I like Muse a lot as does my 7 year old son.

The Killers? Let's not get crazy
Dec 15, 2013 8:59pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 15, 2013 9:00 PM
dlazz;1553865 wrote:Another one that came to mind was Muse. I don't think they've put out an album I don't like, but that's just me.
1) Close enough.
2) Every other time I hear a muse song, I know that I've heard the rhythm before in previous song.
Dec 15, 2013 9:00pm
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Dec 15, 2013 9:00 PM
pmoney25;1553869 wrote:The Killers? Let's not get crazy
I'm not a fan of theirs but there is no doubt in my mind Hot Fuss will be highly regarded in 50 years

edit: muse sucks, their shit all sounds the same
Dec 15, 2013 9:00pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 15, 2013 9:01 PM
I think the Black Keys have a chance to relevant 50 years from now.
Dec 15, 2013 9:01pm
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Dec 15, 2013 9:02 PM
Linkin Park biggest Rock band of the new millennium?
Dec 15, 2013 9:02pm
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Dec 15, 2013 9:04 PM
Sonofanump;1553872 wrote:I think the Black Keys have a chance to relevant 50 years from now.
I could see that if they keep putting out good stuff
Dec 15, 2013 9:04pm
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Dec 15, 2013 9:04 PM


Arcade fire - funeral

and Interpol - turn on the bright lights
Dec 15, 2013 9:04pm
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gut

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Dec 15, 2013 9:39 PM
Glory Days;1553850 wrote:This is where I disagree with you. If the music was "good", it would be mainstream. I think its just trendy to like music no one has heard of, makes people feel good about themselves when they tell other people about bands they don't know about.

granted I have no background in music, I just like what I hear. and when people play music that is non mainstream but they claim is a good band, I rarely agree.
I tried to make this point earlier, but you said it much better. It may take some time for a good band to break mainsream, but good music that isn't a "niche" genre will usually become popular eventually.
Dec 15, 2013 9:39pm
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Dec 15, 2013 9:58 PM
gut;1553896 wrote:I tried to make this point earlier, but you said it much better. It may take some time for a good band to break mainsream, but good music that isn't a "niche" genre will usually become popular eventually.
that's a fucking cop out for people who only want their music prepackaged and spoonfed to them. Go outside your comfort zone and you might discover that you like some music that isn't considered popular
Dec 15, 2013 9:58pm
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Dec 15, 2013 10:05 PM
Mohican00;1553905 wrote:that's a fucking cop out for people who only want their music prepackaged and spoonfed to them. Go outside your comfort zone and you might discover that you like some music that isn't considered popular
That's just a personal preference thing. Popular music is, by definition, appealing to a broad range of people. What you are talking about is having tastes that most people don't have, that doesn't make your music inherently good or bad, just different. I've explored plenty of music on Pandora, youtube and others and like plenty of music across genres and eras.

Truly good music tends to transcend genres and personal preferences - most people know good music when they hear it, even if it isn't their favorite thing. It's an elitist thing - that your non-popular (and by that, I don't necessarily mean mainstream) music is good just because you like it and think more highly of your own personal tastes.

Musical tastes are very subjective. To claim popular music is all "prepackaged garbage" is both elitist and ignorant. Everyone can find lesser known stuff they like, but that doesn't make the music "good" by any objective standards. And if you look at all the one-hit and one-album wonders out there, there truthfully isn't some magic formula. It is simply less interesting to some because what is broadly appealing is going to have similar qualities.
Dec 15, 2013 10:05pm