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jmog
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Jan 17, 2017 2:00pm
Um...NASA had recognized them years ago.vball10set;1833174 wrote:My wife saw Hidden Figures and loved it...however, she had one question--why did it take so long for us (aka America) to discover these smart-as-hell black women who were the literally called 'computers'? You would've thought by now someone would've recognized their contributions to the space program and made it public--I mean, it's not like we're stuck in the 60's...is it?
As Bases linked, the one was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom a couple years ago.
The movie depicting the story just now came out.
Many documentaries and other TV shows have talked about this, recently the show "Timeless" a scifi about time travel had an episode about these "computers".
They most certainly have been recognized, just well known by the mainstream population until probably this movie.
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vball10set
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Jan 17, 2017 2:04pm
Thanks, Zunardo & bases_loaded, and reps to you both...can't wait to see the movie myself.
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jmog
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Jan 17, 2017 2:06pm
I did read in an article that had her being quoted as saying the racism wasn't as bad as shown in the movie but still did exist. Like you said, they made it more "interesting".Zunardo;1833210 wrote:Good question - as a reasonably well-read guy who read "The Right Stuff" and followed the space program from the 1960's, and who was also unaware of these women until seeing the movie this weekend (we really enjoyed it), I thought of a few reasons.
- institutional racism, by which I mean there are a plethora of blacks in various fields who weren't known about in other facets in our history - this might be the biggest, though.
- the collective faceless machine that is NASA consisted of so many people behind the scenes from 1955 to 1975 that the sheer numbers of talented people who were cogs in the machine don't lend themselves well to publicizing individual or small-group accomplishments, even if they were racial pioneers. Let's face it: we don't know about nerds unless they invent something popular and get to market and sell the rights themselves.
-that Hollywood producers thought the "real" story was so dull that they were forced to invent meaner and more blatantly racist villains than actually existed.
Kinda disappointed to learn that in reality, Dorothy Johnson's white colleagues (when she was detailed as "the computer" in the orbit computation group) pretty much accepted her and respected her work, and that things weren't AS bad as portrayed. The restroom she actually used was a heck of a lot closer, and Jim Parson's character was a fabrication.
Still, a very apt title for the movie - "hidden" no more.
One thing that was not covered in the film was that at that time no women could be engineers, they all had to be "computers". It wasn't as much discriminatory to blacks as it was to women in general.
SportsAndLady
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Jan 18, 2017 10:01pm
Wasn't going to see this movie in the first place, but definitely won't be now.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_587fbef7e4b0cf0ae881a304
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_587fbef7e4b0cf0ae881a304
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jan 19, 2017 8:19am
She's All That - 10/10. American classic. RIP Paul Walker, who is one of the worst actors of all time.
High Strung - 0/10. Hilariously awful.
High Strung - 0/10. Hilariously awful.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 19, 2017 10:54am
Jesus, that is awful.SportsAndLady;1833366 wrote:Wasn't going to see this movie in the first place, but definitely won't be now.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_587fbef7e4b0cf0ae881a304
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 20, 2017 4:52pm
SportsAndLady;1833366 wrote:Wasn't going to see this movie in the first place, but definitely won't be now.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_587fbef7e4b0cf0ae881a304
WTAF
Look, I get that that part of the movie has to be in there, and I'm sure if you CGI it, it takes longer, but at that point, I think it's worth it.
I hope this hurts the movie's bottom line significantly.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jan 21, 2017 6:53am
Dinner and a movie with the wife ...... Dinner was good.. Palumbos Italian North Canton the She Crab soup is always good. Hidden Figures was entertaining and enjoyable but I'm not going to ever look it up on Nextfix in the coming years... 5/10
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Wolves of Babylon
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Jan 21, 2017 12:35pm
Split 9.0- Mcavoy was pretty good in this and the ending delivered.
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O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 22, 2017 12:16am
Belly35;1833531 wrote:Dinner and a movie with the wife ...... Dinner was good.. Palumbos Italian North Canton the She Crab soup is always good. Hidden Figures was entertaining and enjoyable but I'm not going to ever look it up on Nextfix in the coming years... 5/10
LOVE some good she crab soup.
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vball10set
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Jan 22, 2017 8:41am
Lucy- 6/10...mostly for Scarlet J looking hot
O-Trap
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Jan 23, 2017 2:34am
This movie seemed, to me, like what would happen if Limitless was directed by Quentin Tarantino.vball10set;1833605 wrote:Lucy- 6/10...mostly for Scarlet J looking hot
Classyposter58
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Jan 23, 2017 4:54pm
Bridge of Spies- 9/10
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jmog
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Jan 24, 2017 11:47am
The whole story from the film's producer. He admits where wrong happened but still calls out where the media got it way wrong.SportsAndLady;1833366 wrote:Wasn't going to see this movie in the first place, but definitely won't be now.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_587fbef7e4b0cf0ae881a304
I suggest reading this, real insight.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gavin-polone-a-dogs-purpose-outcry-what-happened-whos-blame-967160
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jmog
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Jan 24, 2017 9:40pm
Bored on a work trip so saw new XXX movie.
2/10, and that's being generous. Some decent action but overall terrible movie.
2/10, and that's being generous. Some decent action but overall terrible movie.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 24, 2017 11:12pm
Anyone see the HBO documentary called the slender man?
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jan 25, 2017 12:54am
SportsAndLady;1834136 wrote:Anyone see the HBO documentary called the slender man?
Have it on my DVR - haven't pulled the trigger yet. Expecting to be very disturbed, though.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jan 25, 2017 7:06am
No but I will look it up now. The wife is into English Royal Family history ... between The Crown and now Victoria Thursday evening is a night with the Brits...SportsAndLady;1834136 wrote:Anyone see the HBO documentary called the slender man?
I'm kinda of interested but ... Not really...note: not a movie ...short story filmed to tell a ongoing story ...like the movie. Rocky....1 thru 99,
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 25, 2017 2:37pm
No, tell me more. Esp now that I have an HBO GO log in.SportsAndLady;1834136 wrote:Anyone see the HBO documentary called the slender man?
SportsAndLady
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Jan 25, 2017 3:14pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man_stabbingCommander of Awesome;1834215 wrote:No, tell me more. Esp now that I have an HBO GO log in.
Friend watched it and said it was creepy, but good. Going to watch soon but just wondering if anyone else had seen it.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 25, 2017 4:41pm
Law and Order SVU did a ripped from the headlines episode of that a few years ago. Fucking weird as hell.
Laley23
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Jan 25, 2017 5:11pm
Magnificent Seven (2016) - 7.3/10
O-Trap
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Jan 25, 2017 11:24pm
Well, that was specific.Laley23;1834274 wrote:Magnificent Seven (2016) - 7.3/10
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vball10set
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Jan 26, 2017 1:52pm
it's LaleyO-Trap;1834312 wrote:Well, that was specific.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 26, 2017 2:28pm
Seeing Arrival tomorrow. I've heard good things!