sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 9, 2013 12:23pm
Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.queencitybuckeye;1550905 wrote:Meaningless. "Pitt" Brown was a 5*, and coaching isn't the reason he isn't playing like one. The whole 5* 4* stuff is a joke.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 9, 2013 12:27pm
As are the majority of D1 rosters, even at elite schools.sleeper;1550910 wrote:Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.
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Tiernan
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Dec 9, 2013 12:28pm
sleeper;1550910 wrote:Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.
Exactly...and he was overated.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 9, 2013 12:30pm
I don't disagree, the rating can be off. That being said, Alabama has dominated recruiting for the past few years and currenlty have the top program in the country. So they in fact, do mean something. And no matter what star rating a player has, the coaches still have to develop these players as well.queencitybuckeye;1550905 wrote:Meaningless. "Pitt" Brown was a 5*, and coaching isn't the reason he isn't playing like one. The whole 5* 4* stuff is a joke.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 9, 2013 12:37pm
It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.centralbucksfan;1550917 wrote:I don't disagree, the rating can be off. That being said, Alabama has dominated recruiting for the past few years and currenlty have the top program in the country. So they in fact, do mean something. And no matter what star rating a player has, the coaches still have to develop these players as well.
These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 9, 2013 12:50pm
No offense, but ur wrong. If you look at the top programs year in and year out, they are also the top programs in terms of recruting as well. That is a fact. Those ratings do mean smoething. No, they are not always right on the money with every player obviously. But those rankings do in fact mean something.queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.
These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 9, 2013 12:53pm
Yeah, if you simply look at player star ratings and say that a team is loaded with great players because of that, you also must be utterly shocked when you see a first-round NFL pick bomb. Determining what great players at one level will continue being great at the next is always going to be a very inexact science.queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.
These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 9, 2013 1:03pm
Because people have time to watch thousand's of high school football games and determine what 18 year old is better than the other? It's a good guess at best.queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.
These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 9, 2013 1:16pm
Remember the 5* LB kid from NEO (D'antonio?) that was the next Speilman, Butkus combined? Kid never played a single down for OSU after numerous practice injuries. He didn't play in the all-star game at Crew stadium and another LB named AJ Hawk took his place and everybody was like this kid is too smallish to play big time LB.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 9, 2013 1:24pm
I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2013 1:30pm
Mike D'Andrea?Automatik;1550967 wrote:I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 9, 2013 1:31pm
D'Andrea or something like that? Can't remember the exact name, but I think that's at least close.Automatik;1550967 wrote:I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
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Con_Alma
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Dec 9, 2013 1:36pm
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 9, 2013 3:34pm
yeah D'Andrea thats the guy. Point is the star system doesnt always guarantee PT.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 9, 2013 3:42pm
I'm sure the correlation is high though. I'd love to see the analysis of star rating in high school to $M(adjusted) salary in the NFL.Tiernan;1551022 wrote:yeah D'Andrea thats the guy. Point is the star system doesnt always guarantee PT.