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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 8, 2013 12:40am
Does it really matter? May picked MSU in this game. He is gloating now. Now or later? Its the same. I'd take my chances given Urban has a month to prepare for a game.dlazz;1550010 wrote:I'd rather drop a close game to MSU rather than get run out of the building on the national stage and hear the Mark May's of the world tell me how OSU didn't deserve to be there in the first place.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Dec 8, 2013 12:40am
Dave Warner is also the OC at spartydlazz;1550012 wrote:MSU also came prepared...they attempted 40 passes. A Jim Bollman offense.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 8, 2013 12:42am
With all due respect, it wouldn't matter with this defense. We just don't have the secondary to compete with an offensive machine like FSU...we just don't.centralbucksfan;1550016 wrote:Does it really matter? May picked MSU in this game. He is gloating now. Now or later? Its the same. I'd take my chances given Urban has a month to prepare for a game.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 8, 2013 12:42am
No, they didn't lose to Georgia.centralbucksfan;1549996 wrote:Auburn lost to Georgia. Not even ranked. Same kinda loss. So ur point is?
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 8, 2013 12:43am
when you lose at home to PSU , you stinkAzubuike24;1550015 wrote:Wisconsin beat BYU (a better win than ANYONE on Clemson's schedule). 2 point loss to ASU, 7 point loss to OSU and 7 point loss to PSU. Clemson got blasted by FSU. They got pretty much shut down by South Carolina. They DID NOT PLAY the #2 (Duke), #3 (Miami) or #4 (Virginia Tech) teams in the ACC. Their only quality win was Georgia, who was 8-4.
Clemson was a product of not only a weak OOC schedule, but they also managed to have the weakest in-conference schedule a team could have.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 8, 2013 12:45am
Yes, I agree. Wisconsin blew their chance, but the whole point here was that Clemson did zero this season. Louisville did just as much and they wouldn't even have any respect even if they went 12-0.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 8, 2013 12:48am
I hated the call on 3rd ad 4th and short, but the fact is, if the TE got his block it would have been a first down.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 8, 2013 12:49am
and wisconsin was sub zeroAzubuike24;1550022 wrote:Yes, I agree. Wisconsin blew their chance, but the whole point here was that Clemson did zero this season. Louisville did just as much and they wouldn't even have any respect even if they went 12-0.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Dec 8, 2013 12:54am
Carlos Hyde averaged 6.6 YPC tonight against the best defense in the country. On 3rd and short, there's an empty backfield. Seriously? Empty backfield so they know Braxton is running the ball? Then on 4th and short, once again Hyde doesn't carry the ball.
As bad as the defense was, if the correct play call is made on either of those two plays, OSU most likely scores to take a 31-27 lead. Would the defense have held on to that lead? Maybe not. But it is completely inexcusable for Tom Hermann and Urban Meyer to not give the damn ball to Carlos Hyde on 3rd and 4th down on the most important drive of the season. I just don't think I'll ever get over how ridiculously dumb it was to not go to him, especially TWICE in a row!
As bad as the defense was, if the correct play call is made on either of those two plays, OSU most likely scores to take a 31-27 lead. Would the defense have held on to that lead? Maybe not. But it is completely inexcusable for Tom Hermann and Urban Meyer to not give the damn ball to Carlos Hyde on 3rd and 4th down on the most important drive of the season. I just don't think I'll ever get over how ridiculously dumb it was to not go to him, especially TWICE in a row!
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 8, 2013 1:03am
How can that be? Urban Meyer is the best coach in country, well at least that is what i have been reading on this board all week.ironman02;1550027 wrote:Carlos Hyde averaged 6.6 YPC tonight against the best defense in the country. On 3rd and short, there's an empty backfield. Seriously? Empty backfield so they know Braxton is running the ball? Then on 4th and short, once again Hyde doesn't carry the ball.
As bad as the defense was, if the correct play call is made on either of those two plays, OSU most likely scores to take a 31-27 lead. Would the defense have held on to that lead? Maybe not. But it is completely inexcusable for Tom Hermann and Urban Meyer to not give the damn ball to Carlos Hyde on 3rd and 4th down on the most important drive of the season. I just don't think I'll ever get over how ridiculously dumb it was to not go to him, especially TWICE in a row!
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Dec 8, 2013 1:26am
That's really been the key element of the offense this year, not knowing which of the two is going to get the ball for the big play. Take Hyde out and the guessing is is not needed!ironman02;1550027 wrote:Carlos Hyde averaged 6.6 YPC tonight against the best defense in the country. On 3rd and short, there's an empty backfield. Seriously? Empty backfield so they know Braxton is running the ball? Then on 4th and short, once again Hyde doesn't carry the ball.
As bad as the defense was, if the correct play call is made on either of those two plays, OSU most likely scores to take a 31-27 lead. Would the defense have held on to that lead? Maybe not. But it is completely inexcusable for Tom Hermann and Urban Meyer to not give the damn ball to Carlos Hyde on 3rd and 4th down on the most important drive of the season. I just don't think I'll ever get over how ridiculously dumb it was to not go to him, especially TWICE in a row!
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 8, 2013 1:32am
!!!!mhs95_06;1550031 wrote:That's really been the key element of the offense this year, not knowing which of the two is going to get the ball for the big play. Take Hyde out and the guessing is is not needed!
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 8, 2013 8:04am
We can legitimately talk about schemes and talent, but another thing needing mentioned is that of the better programs, tOSU is about the worst tackling team I've seen. Hint to them and their coaches, tackling involves wrapping your arms around the opponent and taking them to the ground, not attempting to run into them and hope it knocks them off their feet.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 8, 2013 8:20am
Osu took the lead, hyde got 4 more carries. How's that happen????
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Dec 8, 2013 8:21am
Big ten bowl projections look like another bad bowl season coming for us all. You can say Clemson did not do anything...I am a huge OSU honk and I can make the same argument for us.
play calling last night was terrible and then there is the D. Discusting display last night.
play calling last night was terrible and then there is the D. Discusting display last night.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 8, 2013 8:23am
Because Tom Herman is a genius and can out scheme any defense in the worldMidstate01;1550052 wrote:Osu took the lead, hyde got 4 more carries. How's that happen????
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 8, 2013 9:35am
So are we playing Clemson or Bama in a Bowl?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 8, 2013 9:36am
Damn, so this is what tsun fans feel like on four or five Sunday mornings during football season? I feel sorry for you all, this sucks!!!
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 8, 2013 9:43am
I've let the game sink in a little more, and I can confirm I'd rather them lose against MSU than to FSU by 50 in the NCG.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 8, 2013 9:53am
Yeah, I ain't even mad.dlazz;1550062 wrote:I've let the game sink in a little more, and I can confirm I'd rather them lose against MSU than to FSU by 50 in the NCG.
Flat out....we aren't good enough. Offense still rules, but you can't win titles with a D that bad.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 8, 2013 9:56am
Agree completely. That is the worst defense I can ever remember from an osu team. Poor scheming and poor talent....Automatik;1550067 wrote:Yeah, I ain't even mad.
Flat out....we aren't good enough. Offense still rules, but you can't win titles with a D that bad.
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 8, 2013 9:57am
The part that makes me sick is the fact that MSU scored TWICE on completely blown coverages. Deduct those 14 points and OSU leads.wes_mantooth;1550070 wrote:Agree completely. That is the worst defense I can ever remember from an osu team. Poor scheming and poor talent....
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 8, 2013 9:59am
I won't rewatch but i couldn't believe the blown coverage on the right end in the endzone. It was bafflingdlazz;1550071 wrote:The part that makes me sick is the fact that MSU scored TWICE on completely blown coverages. Deduct those 14 points and OSU leads.
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 8, 2013 10:00am
Barnett was getting torched all day. He broke on one ball and picked it, but he alone gave up 21 (if I am remembering correctly)wes_mantooth;1550074 wrote:I won't rewatch but i couldn't believe the blown coverage on the right end in the endzone. It was baffling
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 8, 2013 10:01am
It got to the point at times last week too....but as the game went on I'd actually freak out a bit when I'd see Cook drop back.wes_mantooth;1550070 wrote:Agree completely. That is the worst defense I can ever remember from an osu team. Poor scheming and poor talent....
We can't have that. I love defense, I want teams to fear our defense. It must be fixed.
Vonn Bell's bro being rather vocal on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/VdatDudee