SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 10, 2014 11:52am
I'm indifferent about hard knocks. I've never really thought of them being at training camp a distraction for previous teams on the show, but they didn't have JFF. So who knows.BR1986FB;1624545 wrote:Probably a good idea. That would've been a circus with JFF there.
I just wanted to see it for selfish reasons really.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 10, 2014 11:56am
The whole distraction thing is blown out of proportion imo. There are maybe 15 more people there than normal. The only difference is they have access to the coaches and team meetings.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 10, 2014 11:59am
Understand and agree. I'd kind of like to see it but I don't want it to turn into a spectacle. JFF rides on a blowup unicorn (or whatever it was), in a pool, while drinking a bottle of champagne and the media turns him into an axe murderer. At least he knows how to play the "game" by wearing a Cavs hat to the NBA Finals.SportsAndLady;1624551 wrote:I'm indifferent about hard knocks. I've never really thought of them being at training camp a distraction for previous teams on the show, but they didn't have JFF. So who knows.
I just wanted to see it for selfish reasons really.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 10, 2014 12:09pm
He would warrant a draft pick that is for sure, AND you can control to a point where he would go. Release him and he very well could end up on a contending AFC team.BR1986FB;1624549 wrote:Agreed. He pisses you off so much we're like "eff him....get rid of his ass" but at the same time think "but watch the Steelers grab him and he'll turn it around."
As far as thavoice's comment goes, he could eventually be traded but for as good as he's been, I doubt they'd get much. At least not nearly what his true value should be, if he weren't a dumbass.
The hard knocks thing....I have never really watched it but it will be less of a distraction than the legions of fans who will flocking to training camp. Some guys may act/say diff things when the camera's are around but doubt it becomes a distraction.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 10, 2014 12:31pm
Most of the teams on hard knocks get good karma and make the playoffs.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jun 10, 2014 3:00pm
Eh it's been 50%. But only 2 out of the 8 teams didn't win at least 7 games after being featured on Hard Knocks.like_that;1624578 wrote:Most of the teams on hard knocks get good karma and make the playoffs.
I think the Browns would have been really good for the show but completely understand why they would turn it down. I really just hope it's not a team like the Jags.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jun 10, 2014 4:14pm
It'll wind up being the St. Louis Sams...I mean Rams, yeah, Rams.Iliketurtles;1624656 wrote:Eh it's been 50%. But only 2 out of the 8 teams didn't win at least 7 games after being featured on Hard Knocks.
I think the Browns would have been really good for the show but completely understand why they would turn it down. I really just hope it's not a team like the Jags.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 12, 2014 2:28pm
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 4:41pm
Pretty much spot on. Just compare their attendance #s to when they were making the playoffs to the last 2 seasons when they went .500. They were near the bottom LOL. Cue thavoice with a long winded response claiming how he is not a bandwagon fan.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 4:48pm
Check again your numbers again....average attendance, and home percentage.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 12, 2014 4:51pm
Reminds me of Indians fans who go on and on about the sellout streak in the 90s and how great they were, yet their average attendance is on par with a middle of the road MAC football teamlike_that;1625529 wrote:Pretty much spot on. Just compare their attendance #s to when they were making the playoffs to the last 2 seasons when they went .500. They were near the bottom LOL. Cue thavoice with a long winded response claiming how he is not a bandwagon fan.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 4:52pm
In 2013 Pittsburgh was #30 in average attendance and #28 in home percentage. PATHETIC.Automatik;1625534 wrote:Check again your numbers again....average attendance, and home percentage.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 4:54pm
I was referring your statement about the past 2 seasons. They weren't that low in 2012.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 4:54pm
And yet tigers fans still will never come close to reaching 455 straight sell outs. Like I said before, until you do that, STFU. Not to mention you're one of the most fickle fans on this website. Hell, you are nowhere to be found if the tigers are down 1 run, but we sure as well will see you post if they somehow find a way to take the lead.Classyposter58;1625539 wrote:Reminds me of Indians fans who go on and on about the sellout streak in the 90s and how great they were, yet their average attendance is on par with a middle of the road MAC football team
Also, big difference between selling out 8 games and 81 games every season. Not only that, but tribe fans don't even come close to claiming they are the best, nor does the media. Nice fail little guy.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 4:56pm
The point is their attendance has been on a downward trajectory since their last SB season. It went from one of the top, to now near the bottom. Don't feed me bullshit about how steelers fans are the greatest. And yes when you compare the 2012 season (their first season they didn't take the playoffs in awhile) to the previous season they made the playoffs, there is a drop.Automatik;1625545 wrote:I was referring your statement about the past 2 seasons. They weren't that low in 2012.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 5:00pm
When were they near the top?
Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.
Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.
Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 5:04pm
Apparently it bugs you since you had a swift response in a Browns thread lol. I just commented on the article and the point they made. Not my problem steelers fans are a complete fraud when they claim they are great fans.Automatik;1625549 wrote:When were they near the top?
Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.
Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
Also they "travel" well, because they have a bunch of bandwagon fans. Oh, so you live grew up in washington and you are somehow a steelers fan? LOL. I am sure that bandwagon is shrinking each year that goes by without a playoff appearance.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 5:06pm
And to be fair I guess they weren't near the top (since average numbers are a bit skewed), but their percentage sure as hell has dropped.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 5:07pm
I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.
"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 5:11pm
lol'dAutomatik;1625554 wrote:I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.
"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 5:12pm
Google "best NFL fan bases." I'm assuming you think only Pittsburgh fans are putting themselves up there...ammirite?
Pittsburgh's fanbase, LIKE CLEVELAND's has been praised since way back.
Pittsburgh's fanbase, LIKE CLEVELAND's has been praised since way back.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 5:16pm
If you read my posts, I mentioned the media sucks their dick too without any substance to it.Automatik;1625558 wrote:Google "best NFL fan bases." I'm assuming you think only Pittsburgh fans are putting themselves up there...ammirite?
Pittsburgh's fanbase, LIKE CLEVELAND's has been praised since way back.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 12, 2014 5:42pm
A lot bothers Little_thatAutomatik;1625549 wrote:When were they near the top?
Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.
Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2014 8:01pm
Yup, I am sure all is well in your delusional world where a worthless education degree from BGSU gets you a 50+k (base salary) sales job. LOLFAILClasslessdipshit58;1625591 wrote:A lot bothers Little_that
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 12, 2014 8:03pm
Typical, nice little out clause for when you get pwned. If you're going to be moronic and defend pathetic steeler "fans" least go all in.Automatik;1625554 wrote:I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.
"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.