like_that
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Jun 6, 2014 5:33pm
Anybody else cautiously excited to see what Pettine can do with this defense? I feel that every year he and farmer will add talent.
Go4alOngbOmB
Posts: 673
Jun 9, 2014 3:03am
So with experience what does that leave us at LB? Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo and Robertson? I would like a little more depth in that position than that. I know D'quell was old, but he showed up when he was playing. Depth is what makes NFL teams good. Because it IS the NFL....and people WILL get knocked the hell out!
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jun 9, 2014 7:43am
Dansby, Kirksey too. Not sure if you were just referring to OLB but then I saw D'qwell brought up.Go4alOngbOmB;1624007 wrote:So with experience what does that leave us at LB? Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo and Robertson? I would like a little more depth in that position than that. I know D'quell was old, but he showed up when he was playing. Depth is what makes NFL teams good. Because it IS the NFL....and people WILL get knocked the hell out!
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BR1986FB
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Jun 9, 2014 8:50am
SportsAndLady
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Jun 9, 2014 9:00am
1- Mary Kay tabot so more than likely not trueBR1986FB;1624045 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/08/banner-lombardi-wanted-to-trade-josh-gordon/
2-I would not have been happy with a trade of Gordon even after the recent events. A second round pick and some players? No thanks. Gordon will be fine, probably just won't see him until 2015 but let's face it were not Super Bowl contenders right now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 9, 2014 9:08am
I'll be very surprised if we see Gordon again. I don't see his dumb ass staying clean with all of that down time.SportsAndLady;1624047 wrote: 2-I would not have been happy with a trade of Gordon even after the recent events. A second round pick and some players? No thanks. Gordon will be fine, probably just won't see him until 2015 but let's face it were not Super Bowl contenders right now.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 9, 2014 9:21am
Probably true. I just hope this year off made him think how big of a dumbass he is and how much money he just lost. Hopefully puts a few good people around him as well.BR1986FB;1624051 wrote:I'll be very surprised if we see Gordon again. I don't see his dumb ass staying clean with all of that down time.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 9, 2014 9:37am
Hope you're right about him straightening up but I'm skeptical. Still baffles me how stupid this guy is.SportsAndLady;1624057 wrote:Probably true. I just hope this year off made him think how big of a dumbass he is and how much money he just lost. Hopefully puts a few good people around him as well.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 9, 2014 9:37am
That article is oldnews.com There were all sorts of reports about this back in Jan/Feb and the 2nd round pick was already reported. Nice fail on PFT/MKCBR1986FB;1624045 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/08/banner-lombardi-wanted-to-trade-josh-gordon/
Dr. KnOiTaLL
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Jun 9, 2014 9:46am
The only way Gordon stays in the league is if the Browns give him the Dez Bryant treatment and put someone with him 24/7. He's a kid and obviously needs adult supervision. At the same time, he's a game changer and can go a long way towards making us a contender if he stays on the field. This NEEDS to be done. Give him a babysitter.SportsAndLady;1624057 wrote:Probably true. I just hope this year off made him think how big of a dumbass he is and how much money he just lost. Hopefully puts a few good people around him as well.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 9, 2014 10:02am
Plus the dumbass has a big "bullseye" on his back every time he takes that camo car out for a spin. Everyone in Cleveland knows who it is, including the cops (I'm sure). With his speeding record, he's probably going to get pulled over, maybe when he's not even guilty, in hopes of the cop nailing him doing something wrong (possession, etc).Dr. KnOiTaLL;1624067 wrote:The only way Gordon stays in the league is if the Browns give him the Dez Bryant treatment and put someone with him 24/7. He's a kid and obviously needs adult supervision. At the same time, he's a game changer and can go a long way towards making us a contender if he stays on the field. This NEEDS to be done. Give him a babysitter.
lhslep134
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Jun 9, 2014 3:11pm
It's pretty much the same thing that happened with the Eagles/Cris Carter. Carter turned out to be awesome, but not for them...
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2014 7:45am
I've been hearing more & more from some of these national analysts that the Browns should just cut bait with Gordon. Saying he's too much of a "lingering issue" to deal with. I'd hold onto him a little longer to see if the light bulb goes on and if he slips up again, see ya....lhslep134;1624202 wrote:It's pretty much the same thing that happened with the Eagles/Cris Carter. Carter turned out to be awesome, but not for them...
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Jun 10, 2014 7:50am
Yep. They lose nothing by just holding on to him.BR1986FB;1624423 wrote:I've been hearing more & more from some of these national analysts that the Browns should just cut bait with Gordon. Saying he's too much of a "lingering issue" to deal with. I'd hold onto him a little longer to see if the light bulb goes on and if he slips up again, see ya....
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 10, 2014 9:56am
I would keep him and see what happens when he gets reinstated. As much as you would love to just tell him to fuck off, he still is one of the most dynamic WR's out there.BR1986FB;1624423 wrote:I've been hearing more & more from some of these national analysts that the Browns should just cut bait with Gordon. Saying he's too much of a "lingering issue" to deal with. I'd hold onto him a little longer to see if the light bulb goes on and if he slips up again, see ya....
Plus.....he could be trade bait next year as well.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2014 10:21am
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jmog
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Jun 10, 2014 11:01am
As long as they don't put him on the cover...amirite!?BR1986FB;1624495 wrote:https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10156014_10152267782854081_1820483548840977296_n.jpg
Madden ^^^^
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2014 11:06am
Amen to that.jmog;1624513 wrote:As long as they don't put him on the cover...amirite!?
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thavoice
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Jun 10, 2014 11:10am
Think I read that Richard Sherman was voted to be on the cover....BR1986FB;1624495 wrote:https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10156014_10152267782854081_1820483548840977296_n.jpg
Madden ^^^^
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 10, 2014 11:30am
BR1986FB;1624423 wrote:I've been hearing more & more from some of these national analysts that the Browns should just cut bait with Gordon. Saying he's too much of a "lingering issue" to deal with. I'd hold onto him a little longer to see if the light bulb goes on and if he slips up again, see ya....
GoChiefs;1624426 wrote:Yep. They lose nothing by just holding on to him.
thavoice;1624482 wrote:I would keep him and see what happens when he gets reinstated. As much as you would love to just tell him to fuck off, he still is one of the most dynamic WR's out there.
Plus.....he could be trade bait next year as well.
IMO both sides have merit. We really could just cut bait and say good riddance because he's the type of person you don't want to have in the locker room that could be a bad influence on young guys.
But he's on a cheap deal and incredibly talented, so really, outside of potential influence, there's no legit reason to cut him.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 10, 2014 11:34am
When he gets reinstated they can trade him if they want and have a say in where he goes.....Oakland, Jax, or some other shitole team in the NFClhslep134;1624537 wrote:IMO both sides have merit. We really just cut bait and say good riddance because he's the type of person you don't want to have in the locker room that could be a bad influence on young guys.
But he's on a cheap deal and incredibly talented, so really, outside of potential influence, there's no legit reason to cut him.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 10, 2014 11:41am
Browns turned down hard knocks. Damn, I definitely wanted to see that.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2014 11:46am
Probably a good idea. That would've been a circus with JFF there.SportsAndLady;1624542 wrote:Browns turned down hard knocks. Damn, I definitely wanted to see that.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 10, 2014 11:47am
My thoughts as well.BR1986FB;1624545 wrote:Probably a good idea. That would've been a circus with JFF there.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 10, 2014 11:48am
Agreed. He pisses you off so much we're like "eff him....get rid of his ass" but at the same time think "but watch the Steelers grab him and he'll turn it around."lhslep134;1624537 wrote:IMO both sides have merit. We really just cut bait and say good riddance because he's the type of person you don't want to have in the locker room that could be a bad influence on young guys.
But he's on a cheap deal and incredibly talented, so really, outside of potential influence, there's no legit reason to cut him.
As far as thavoice's comment goes, he could eventually be traded but for as good as he's been, I doubt they'd get much. At least not nearly what his true value should be, if he weren't a dumbass.