wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 10:54am
But he wasn't the best choice....he was their 5th choice apparently. Sounds to me like he had the deck stacked against him from the get goHitsRus;1560077 wrote:....you guys are making this way too complicated. They hired Chud because they thought he was the best choice. They saw things during the season that they didn't like that suggested that he wasn't the guy to go forward. I know some of you guys are blinded by your hate of Banner/Lombardi... But as bad as they may be, and as bad as you think they are, they are not complete idiots. They are full aware of the implications and ramifications of what they did. They saw something in the finish of the season that convinced them that Chud was not the guy to lead the team in the future.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jan 1, 2014 10:54am
So what if the new coach goes 4-12 in his first season, do you fire him? If not then how do you justify firing one coach for a 4 win season but don't fire the next one?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 1, 2014 10:57am
I guess it depends on whether or not the brass feels that progress is being made. The way I understand it, that's what the biggest complaint was.Tigerfan00;1560080 wrote:So what if the new coach goes 4-12 in his first season, do you fire him? If not then how do you justify firing one coach for a 4 win season but don't fire the next one?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 11:01am
Also, I'm not big on chud, but I think the bigger problem is the idiots above him
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 1, 2014 11:06am
Do you think he's fired if he goes 6-10?...or even if they just play the last two games down to the wire?....instead of being embarrassed by the Jets and the Steelers?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 11:16am
Well, throw the Steelers game out, because they said the decision was made before that.HitsRus;1560084 wrote:Do you think he's fired if he goes 6-10?...or even if they just play the last two games down to the wire?....instead of being embarrassed by the Jets and the Steelers?
But honestly, no idea....I just think that banner and Lombardi are egomaniacs that think they are smarter than everyone else
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 1, 2014 11:26am
I've already bought 5IggyPride00;1560039 wrote:
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 1, 2014 12:11pm
Gus is intriguing, but could he handle an NFL roster? The guy literally was coaching HS football 9 years ago.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 1, 2014 12:19pm
idk how i feel about him. he runs basically 3 plays and has had all of his success with gimmicky qbs (newton and marshall)
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 1, 2014 12:46pm
My brother knows a lot about him. He has connections with Arkansas st football and he is definitely not gimmicky. With auburns personnel, that was what he had to run bc of their passing game. His offense was a bit different when he was at ak st. He's a great football mind and I am 100% confident he would adapt his offense to personnel and to the nfl gamePick6;1560132 wrote:idk how i feel about him. he runs basically 3 plays and has had all of his success with gimmicky qbs (newton and marshall)
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 1, 2014 12:48pm
You can learn a hell of a lot in 8 years. If he's always been successful it's hard not to assume the guy has what it takes. He'd fairly high up my list.like_that;1560127 wrote:Gus is intriguing, but could he handle an NFL roster? The guy literally was coaching HS football 9 years ago.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 1, 2014 2:38pm
Dave Furst ‏@DaveFurst 4m #Colts Trent Richardson went out of his way today to thank the Indy media for "knowing football."
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jan 1, 2014 3:03pm
"Cleveland is also expected to make former Detroit Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who was fired this week after a 7-9 record this season, the team’s defensive coordinator for 2014." Per LaCanfora FWIW
lol so back to the 4-3?
lol so back to the 4-3?
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jan 1, 2014 3:32pm
Why would they hire a coordinator without the coach being hired? What coach wants to come into a situation where they can't pick their own coordinators?
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Jan 1, 2014 4:58pm
Looks that way. I think we're still better set up for the 4-3 from a personnel standpoint anyway though. Probably a good thing.shook_17;1560220 wrote: lol so back to the 4-3?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 1, 2014 6:10pm
They must have informally agreed to something with whoever they are going to hire and gotten them to sign off. If they didn't, they are bigger morons than I give them credit for and that is really saying something.iclfan2;1560242 wrote:Why would they hire a coordinator without the coach being hired? What coach wants to come into a situation where they can't pick their own coordinators?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 1, 2014 6:39pm
If that's the thought process of those in charge, changing coaches will not fix the core problem.HitsRus;1560084 wrote:Do you think he's fired if he goes 6-10?...or even if they just play the last two games down to the wire?....instead of being embarrassed by the Jets and the Steelers?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 1, 2014 8:10pm
Schwartz is a 4-3 guy. Unless Mingo is an OLB, this makes last year's pick look somewhat puzzling now...
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 8:12pm
I don't really think they wanted Mingo....rumor was they were shopping the hell out of that pickAzubuike24;1560440 wrote:Schwartz is a 4-3 guy. Unless Mingo is an OLB, this makes last year's pick look somewhat puzzling now...
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 1, 2014 8:14pm
But Mingo isn't a bad player either. It's not like he's a guy who can't even see the field.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 8:16pm
Agreed. I think he has some adjusting to do, but he'll be fine
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 1, 2014 8:30pm
didnt LSU run a 4-3? regardless, not sure he is big enough to play straight DE
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 1, 2014 8:36pm
Yeah, but he was able to dominate with speed and length at that level. He also had Montgomery on the other side. He's definitely not big enough to play DE in a 4-3...probably needs to add 25 lbs. More likely he moves to OLB in a 4-3.Pick6;1560464 wrote:didnt LSU run a 4-3? regardless, not sure he is big enough to play straight DE
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 1, 2014 8:40pm
Looking forward to seeing what Bortles can do tonight against Baylor.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 1, 2014 9:02pm
Looking good early. I really like bortles hopefully he will be the pick.se-alum;1560482 wrote:Looking forward to seeing what Bortles can do tonight against Baylor.