Yeah no chance he retires. He just doesn't want to play for a losing team.

One of my top 3 can't stand NBA players.

The Lakers don't want him. They were going to release him had their trade worked out.

Well, either way, he won't be tearing it up on the Bulls.

Andrew Bynum has been waived by #Bulls. Free to sign with any team upon clearing waivers.

Bynum will be in Miami..no doubt about it. They want someone to go against hibbert.

I like the trade for now, but I think this puts us a crappy team that makes the playoffs....gets swept and misses out on the lottery pick.

wes_mantooth;1564334 wrote:Bynum will be in Miami..no doubt about it. They want someone to go against hibbert.

I like the trade for now, but I think this puts us a crappy team that makes the playoffs....gets swept and misses out on the lottery pick.

Yep. Exactly how I feel about this trade. We will sneak in to the 8th seed, get waxed in the first round and have the 14th pick, in a solid 13 players draft.

Bynum and the way things were handled is why I grow frustrated with the NBA. It's a players league and it lets the players choose where they will go. We all know Bynum wants to go to Miami and play with LBJ.

The worst thing you can do in the NBA is be an 8 seed. You are in a no mans land. You won't get better without a top pick. They should keep resting Kyrie and keep losing and get a top 3 pick. If they can build a team around Kyrie, deng, waiters and a top 3 pick they have something's really good.

If the FO was in the lotto again, they'd be fired. Dan Gilbert wants to win now, and the FO was under tremendous pressure to make it happen. Lets also not forget its important to get Kyrie, TT, Waiters, etc playoff experience.

HighRoller74;1564337 wrote:Yep. Exactly how I feel about this trade. We will sneak in to the 8th seed, get waxed in the first round and have the 14th pick, in a solid 13 players draft.

Didn't see much QQing about making the playoffs at the beginning of the year. Christ this whole site is turning into Iggy.

sleeper;1526005 wrote:49 wins, #5 seed.

thavoice;1526017 wrote:Between 40-57 wins.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1526063 wrote:I would think so. I know I heard they will be spoon-feeding him minutes at first. What a miserable life it must be to be the knees of Andrew Bynum.

I will predict something around 48 wins.

Rotinaj;1526073 wrote:If Kyrie, AV, and Bynum are healthy most of the year(literally 0% chance of this happening) they can win about 47. I think they end up winning about 37 and Kyrie is the only AS.

thavoice;1526086 wrote:It all comes down to how many games can they score more than their opponants. If they can do it 40-57 times then my prediction will be dead on.

Nate;1526123 wrote:48 wins.

Pick6;1526181 wrote:This team has more depth than maybe ever.

Commander of Awesome;1564349 wrote:Didn't see much QQing about making the playoffs at the beginning of the year. Christ this whole site is turning into Iggy.

I wasn't here at the start of the season, but I've been against them contending the entire time. Don't want to be another Milwaukee, good enough for a 6-7 seed every year, but not good enough to seriously contend.

Would like to see the Cavs follow the Thunder template.

HighRoller74;1564354 wrote:I wasn't here at the start of the season, but I've been against them contending the entire time. Don't want to be another Milwaukee, good enough for a 6-7 seed every year, but not good enough to seriously contend.

Would like to see the Cavs follow the Thunder template.

We've followed the Thunder template, the only problem is our drafts haven't been as good as KD's, Russell Westbrook, Harden drafts.

Commander of Awesome;1564363 wrote:We've followed the Thunder template, the only problem is our drafts haven't been as good as KD's, Russell Westbrook, Harden drafts.

Yeah...complete bad luck that the Cavs picked so high in such shitty drafts.

Honestly the core we have now is pretty good now that deng is added. Talent wise we should be a top 3 team in the east behind Miami and Indy. The chemistry isn't there this year and the defense has been garbage and that's all on effort. If they don't make the playoffs I really can't see them keeping mike brown. There is no reason this team should be this bad right now. Deng's presence in the locker room should change that. Hopefully

Mike Brown's huge fat enormous dumb contract will keep him around.

sportchampps;1564339 wrote:The worst thing you can do in the NBA is be an 8 seed. You are in a no mans land. You won't get better without a top pick. They should keep resting Kyrie and keep losing and get a top 3 pick. If they can build a team around Kyrie, deng, waiters and a top 3 pick they have something's really good.

If you don't have a franchise player, then yeah an 8 seed sucks. It's not like the cavs have a bunch of role players making a run at the 8 seed. They actually have a franchise player to build around.

Also, being stuck in no mans land seemed to work out for the pacers.

like_that;1564373 wrote:If you don't have a franchise player, then yeah an 8 seed sucks. It's not like the cavs have a bunch of role players making a run at the 8 seed. They actually have a franchise player to build around.

Also, being stuck in no mans land seemed to work out for the pacers.

True, however they have a semi-competent front office.

HighRoller74;1564376 wrote:True, however they have a semi-competent front office.

I actually don't have any problems with our FO. Can quiver about the TT pick over Klay Thompson but besides that they haven't made a move that I thought was dumb. Not sure what else you wanted them to do, they turned Mo Williams into Kyrie Irving for christ sakes.

lhslep134;1564151 wrote:Care to elaborate or do you just want to give a vague opinion?

High Roller pretty much nailed it. It's two steps forward now to tread water indefinitely in the future.

Have you guys seen this team play the last couple games without Kyrie? It might legitimately be the worst team in the NBA without him, which shouldn't be shocking because it's consistently been bottom 6-8 even with him in there.

Deng is a very good player. Borderline all-star. I don't give a shit about the picks they gave up. But this is only a solution to not sucking, not a solution to being legit. It takes the Cavs farther away from being a championship team, as crazy as that might sound, because we end up picking 15-20 every year instead of in the top 5. It puts the team in a position where you need to a) get incredibly lucky with a mid-round pick, b) build through free agency, which is never going to happen in Cleveland, or c) hope the trade is a massive flop and we end up picking in the top 5 anyway.

Deng is good enough to get this team to maybe the 5 seed in the East. This year. That's how bad the east is. Even at 11-23 or whatever it is now, a top 5 seed is still very much attainable. He just doesn't make them a title contender. And I don't really give a fuck about making the playoffs if there's no chance of it going anywhere.

So we end up picking in the teens, and we likely never progress to being elite. It's a desperation move to make the playoffs this year that results in a worse draft pick in what looks like a loaded class (at least in the top 6-8). And even worse than that, a playoff push might result in Chris Grant still being the guy making that draft pick, although I hope Gilbert has seen enough of how horribly this team has been assembled the past 2 seasons to pull the plug at the end of this year regardless.

The best long term course of action was to tank this year. Then you can make a run at Deng in free agency if you really want him. Or some guy named LeBron that certain posters (not to name any names) have stated unequivocally is coming back.

I love the TT pick. Loved it from the night they picked him. If you went back, I was one of the people who really liked him. He's got a ton of room to get better too.

Commander of Awesome;1564380 wrote:I actually don't have any problems with our FO. Can quiver about the TT pick over Klay Thompson but besides that they haven't made a move that I thought was dumb. Not sure what else you wanted them to do, they turned Mo Williams into Kyrie Irving for christ sakes.

Hiring Mike Brown.

Mulva;1564381 wrote:
The best long term course of action was to tank this year. Then you can make a run at Deng in free agency if you really want him. Or some guy named LeBron that certain posters (not to name any names) have stated unequivocally is coming back.

I wouldn't count on that. Maverick had been so adamant that he felt bad all these years and wanted to get his name back, but I heard him talking to my dad the other day and his whole tone was different. I don't think he's coming.

ohiobucks1;1564386 wrote:I wouldn't count on that. Maverick had been so adamant that he felt bad all these years and wanted to get his name back, but I heard him talking to my dad the other day and his whole tone was different. I don't think he's coming.

I'm not counting on it either.

Edit to add Lebron can suck a bag of dicks.

Midstate01;1564383 wrote:I love the TT pick. Loved it from the night they picked him. If you went back, I was one of the people who really liked him. He's got a ton of room to get better too.

I liked the TT pick then too, but I would much rather have Klay Thompson now than him. He hasn't developed as much as I thought he would by now. Still waiting for the consistency light to come on for him. He's not a slouch by any means, but I expected him to be an all star talk by now.