Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 30, 2014 9:46pm
They signed him to a massive deal in 2012. Not terrible, as only 2 years will remain after this season. But, it was 4 yrs and 58 million. If they cant resign Lance because of that and he continues to just suck, it immediately becomes one of the worst deals in the league.robj55;1621162 wrote:I agree, he can help a team off the bench in score first type role but was never really a starting pg. Hibbert has always been overrated imo, he feasts on smaller front lines but struggles big time when he is put in pick and roll and has to move his feet away from the basket. His footwork is very average as well, don't know what his contract is like but he is very overvalued.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 30, 2014 9:46pm
I agree, I think he is a talented coach but he always rubbed me as arrogant. I think his stubbornness is a part of that. It's like man you haven't won anything yet, stop acting like you are above changes. He has been outcoached by Spo.Laley23;1621160 wrote:I dont know if they have turned on/tuned out Vogel, but I might have lol. Dude is WAY to stubborn. You gotta make adjustments in the playoffs, and he doesnt, and it kills them year in year out. I think he is a bright young mind, but they might not be able to wait around for him to learn how to coach a team in the playoffs.
Also, I hate his slow down game. The Pacers are actually a better team when they get out and run a bit, but he has them slowing it down. Their offense is ok, but they take SO long to get into it, they fight the shot clock too much. Thats on Vogel.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 30, 2014 9:49pm
I agree, get him involved early, make sure he understands that he is the man and this is his team for the future. I think there is definitely something that happened behind closed doors that hasn't come out yet.Laley23;1621167 wrote:Very true. Also, imo, on Vogel. You know PG is like that, so run some isos for him early and MAKE him be a scorer and playmaker.
Also, this is PGs 2nd true playoff run (and last years was really, really good), I wouldnt count him out yet. I think it will come. This year seems to have a funny feel to it...you just know something will come out in the offseason and explain the 180 this team has done.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 30, 2014 9:56pm
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 30, 2014 9:57pm
Man Indy is NOT a good passing team at all, if they were better in that area this might be a different series.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 30, 2014 10:12pm
I never even turned it on. There was no way this game was going to be anything but a beatdown, which is pathetic for conference finals elimination game. It's sad what a forgone conclusion the NBA season is.friendfromlowry;1621143 wrote:Paul George 0-6 with 1 point.
Hibbert two rebounds and a field goal (Mario Chalmers has two rebounds, too)
I have no idea what will happen when Miami plays San Antonio (arguably the first challenge they'll have faced all post-season) but I'm turning this game off. Good riddance, Indiana.
At least the finals should be worth watching, though.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
May 31, 2014 3:48am
Fuck Miami.
That being said, hope SA or OKC dethrone Miami. Cant stand watching their bandwagon grow, and listen to the fans try to justify their bandwagoning lol
That being said, hope SA or OKC dethrone Miami. Cant stand watching their bandwagon grow, and listen to the fans try to justify their bandwagoning lol
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 31, 2014 9:09am
I was curious last night if the fans booing Stephenson even knew why they were booing him.KB0938;1621272 wrote:Fuck Miami.
That being said, hope SA or OKC dethrone Miami. Cant stand watching their bandwagon grow, and listen to the fans try to justify their bandwagoning lol
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 31, 2014 10:05am
Solid effort last night Pacers. Smh.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 31, 2014 1:56pm
Stephensen is the new Artest, fucking clown.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 31, 2014 2:15pm
I was starting to think this myself. But his antics have been on the court and relatively harmless in comparison. Ya, he's out there but more like JR Smith's antics earlier this season.Automatik;1621335 wrote:Stephensen is the new Artest, fucking clown.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
May 31, 2014 3:22pm
I heard an interview with a reporter from that said Paul George was dealing a stripper pregnant, and Paul slept with Hibbert's wife.robj55;1621177 wrote:I agree, get him involved early, make sure he understands that he is the man and this is his team for the future. I think there is definitely something that happened behind closed doors that hasn't come out yet.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 31, 2014 3:41pm
What?superman;1621338 wrote:I heard an interview with a reporter from that said Paul George was dealing a stripper pregnant, and Paul slept with Hibbert's wife.
But yes, the pregnant woman and Hibbert's fiance were two rumors this year. Although it's tough to say how valid they are.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 31, 2014 10:15pm
Not to poke fun, but welcome to 3 months ago.superman;1621338 wrote:I heard an interview with a reporter from that said Paul George was dealing a stripper pregnant, and Paul slept with Hibbert's wife.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 31, 2014 11:07pm
Horrible call. That's not a foul
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 31, 2014 11:19pm
Welp heat spurs it is
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2014 11:38pm
Should be another classic series.
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wghfan
Posts: 744
May 31, 2014 11:41pm
This era of the NBA is the worst I have ever seen.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2014 11:46pm
Westbrook goes 34/8/7/6
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2014 11:47pm
You wearin your LeBron jersey?wghfan;1621411 wrote:This era of the NBA is the worst I have ever seen.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2014 11:48pm
OKC's best/most important playerIronman92;1621413 wrote:Westbrook goes 34/8/7/6
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2014 11:53pm
IDK if you are being serious or not and the debate on here about certain players bores me to death.....but that's a pretty special accumulation of stats for one playoff game.robj55;1621415 wrote:OKC's best/most important player
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2014 11:54pm
Just think he impacts the game in more ways than Durant, makes more plays n other areas other than scoring, makes that team go. Both top 5 players.Ironman92;1621416 wrote:IDK if you are being serious or not and the debate on here about certain players bores me to death.....but that's a pretty special accumulation of stats for one playoff game.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2014 11:56pm
I don't know where he appropriately ranks as an all-around player....but he is athletically awesome to watch.robj55;1621417 wrote:Just think he impacts the game in more ways than Durant, makes more plays n other areas other than scoring, makes that team go. Both top 5 players.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 1, 2014 2:23am
Not that you care what I think but you just lost all credibility with me regarding the NBA and I can no longer take what you write seriously.robj55;1621415 wrote:OKC's best/most important player