Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 27, 2014 12:23am
Nevermind, went for the 2...took a bit too much time.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 27, 2014 3:53am
The west is awesome. Wish conferences would go away.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 27, 2014 11:16am
VC walked.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 27, 2014 11:37am
Big timeIronman92;1609668 wrote:VC walked.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 27, 2014 11:46am
Shawn Marion, currently about 18,000 points and just shy of 10,000 rebounds. 35-years old. HOF if he gets to 20K and 11K?
Only 19 others in history have done it...
Only 19 others in history have done it...
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 27, 2014 12:28pm
I don't believe he will make it and no anyways.Azubuike24;1609677 wrote:Shawn Marion, currently about 18,000 points and just shy of 10,000 rebounds. 35-years old. HOF if he gets to 20K and 11K?
Only 19 others in history have done it...
But a very good career.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2014 3:17pm
i've kind of enjoyed watching the Wiz in the playoffs thus far. Great mix of young talent and experienced Vets.
I think I'd take Wall over Kyrie. Kyrie obviously the better scoring talent, but that's where it ends IMO. Defense, passing, heart, hustle, leadership all goes to Wall.
I think I'd take Wall over Kyrie. Kyrie obviously the better scoring talent, but that's where it ends IMO. Defense, passing, heart, hustle, leadership all goes to Wall.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 27, 2014 3:26pm
Wiz can beat Indiana or Atlanta too.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 27, 2014 6:22pm
I've really enjoyed the playoffs. I don't watch much during the regular season but I've watched as much of the playoffs as possible. The Blazers and Wizards have been fun to watch, and some of the lower-seeded teams like the Pacers, Spurs, and Thunder are getting all they can handle.
Miami - Brooklyn and Washington - Indiana would be great second round match-ups
Miami - Brooklyn and Washington - Indiana would be great second round match-ups
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2014 6:27pm
Today I learned Charles Barkley is a lot more sensible than the race baiter Jalen Rose
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2014 7:19pm
What did he say?Pick6;1609827 wrote:Today I learned Charles Barkley is a lot more sensible than the race baiter Jalen Rose
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 27, 2014 7:39pm
These playoffs have been great so far, no real clear cut favorite.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 27, 2014 8:00pm
I forget who on Twitter I follow (Vitale or J.A. Adande maybe) that was kind of retorting how Jalen Rose suggested the Clippers forfeit tonight's game to spite Sterling. I understand not wanting to win any more success for the guy, but at the same time the players have worked for months/years to get to this point. They only get so many chances to make a playoff run.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2014 8:10pm
like_that- see this. It wasn't so much as what Charles said, it was the shit Rose was spewing on the pregame show. Charles had a much less radical opinion saying pretty much just to play the game. That crap doesn't really matter and nobody plays for the owner anyways. They play for themselves, the coach, and the fan base.friendfromlowry;1609851 wrote:I forget who on Twitter I follow (Vitale or J.A. Adande maybe) that was kind of retorting how Jalen Rose suggested the Clippers forfeit tonight's game to spite Sterling. I understand not wanting to win any more success for the guy, but at the same time the players have worked for months/years to get to this point. They only get so many chances to make a playoff run.
To me, Jalen just confirmed what I got a glimpse of in Fab 5 in how much he cares about race (see- Grant Hill- Uncle Tom). Jalen cares too much about off the court bs, which probably explains why he never won anything at the collegiate or professional level while having exceptional talent around him.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 27, 2014 8:37pm
I hate the whole race thing but I especially hate how people think it only goes one way, tired of people playing that card.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2014 8:55pm
This, but I don't want to turn this thread into a race shit show.robj55;1609863 wrote:I hate the whole race thing but I especially hate how people think it only goes one way, tired of people playing that card.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 27, 2014 8:58pm
Yeah I may have opened pandora's box lollike_that;1609872 wrote:This, but I don't want to turn this thread into a race shit show.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Apr 27, 2014 9:06pm
Deron Williams went from being an elite pg, to barely mediocre seemingly overnight
robj55
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Apr 27, 2014 9:24pm
Still elite imo, had a down year do to injuries and the fact that he has to share the ball with so many weapons. I think he only took like 11 shots a game this year, that's not very many. Shooting percentages were on par with his career averages.KB0938;1609874 wrote:Deron Williams went from being an elite pg, to barely mediocre seemingly overnight
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 27, 2014 9:25pm
Toronto with a tremendous defensive possession, great job on the pick and roll/pop.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Apr 27, 2014 10:03pm
Idk if id still consider him elite. Id take Lillard, Paul, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Parker, Irving, Wall, Curry, Conley all over him. When healthy of course for all. Hed be in the next grouping now IMO with like Lawson, Rubio, Lowry, Felton, Jennings, ect, obviously towards the top of all of them but def with those players over the ones i listed aboverobj55;1609880 wrote:Still elite imo, had a down year do to injuries and the fact that he has to share the ball with so many weapons. I think he only took like 11 shots a game this year, that's not very many. Shooting percentages were on par with his career averages.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 27, 2014 10:17pm
KB0938;1609891 wrote:Idk if id still consider him elite. Id take Lillard, Paul, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Parker, Irving, Wall, Curry, Conley all over him. When healthy of course for all. Hed be in the next grouping now IMO with like Lawson, Rubio, Lowry, Felton, Jennings, ect, obviously towards the top of all of them but def with those players over the ones i listed above
Hard to say really, all of them have flaws really. Kyrie and Curry play no D, neither does Westbrook really. Rondo can't shoot consistently. Conley has ascended but no way he is better than DWill yet. Lillard is great offensively but little to no D. Tony Parker has always been the most underrated PG imo, and Chris Paul is probably the most complete. When healthy DWill has been neck and neck with Chris Paul throughout their careers, and he normally gets the best of him when they match up head to head. I didn't bring up Rose because he is irrelevant and probably done.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Apr 27, 2014 10:21pm
Dwill isnt exactly known for his defense either though, at all. Rondo and Conley cant shoot better than Williams at all, but theyre just as skilled at passing and play way better defense. Only player I might put em over on that list is Wall because hes so up and down and idk if this year is him maturing, or if its just a freak occurrence.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Apr 27, 2014 10:21pm
Paul no doubt is #1 though, most complete on the list. Aside from size
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 27, 2014 10:24pm
Deron Williams sucks duderobj55;1609894 wrote:Hard to say really, all of them have flaws really. Kyrie and Curry play no D, neither does Westbrook really. Rondo can't shoot consistently. Conley has ascended but no way he is better than DWill yet. Lillard is great offensively but little to no D. Tony Parker has always been the most underrated PG imo, and Chris Paul is probably the most complete. When healthy DWill has been neck and neck with Chris Paul throughout their careers, and he normally gets the best of him when they match up head to head. I didn't bring up Rose because he is irrelevant and probably done.