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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 2, 2013 9:06am
I agree with this. They do have average talent but they are scrappy and have gotten hot at the right time.Con_Alma;1511197 wrote:All year I have said this team has average talent. I still say that's the case. No superstars. Average individuals. I am impressed with the job Francona has done.
What I was wrong about was their ability to win the number of games they have. I don't believe I am wrong about their talent level.
They have performed incredibly in September...a great time to get hot. Lets hope it continues.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 2, 2013 9:08am
Yeah...agree, but the starting pitching was well above average. And the bullpen really straightened out once vinnie was gone....other than perezBR1986FB;1511199 wrote:I agree with this. They do have average talent but they are scrappy and have gotten hot at the right time.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 9:10am
It's the strength of the team by far. The only over achieving group.wes_mantooth;1511200 wrote:Yeah...agree, but the starting pitching was well above average....
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Oct 2, 2013 9:12am
This!! YAAAAAY!wes_mantooth;1511164 wrote:Game day!!! Leaving work early today to take it all in! Go Tribe!
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 2, 2013 9:12am
Agreed.wes_mantooth;1511200 wrote:Yeah...agree, but the starting pitching was well above average. And the bullpen really straightened out once vinnie was gone....other than perez
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 2, 2013 9:25am
As long as your pitching is hot, you have a chance. IMO the Giants outside of Buster Posey have a pretty average lineup and they have now own 2 titles with that lineup.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 2, 2013 9:27am
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 9:27am
Every team in the playoffs has a "chance"....some have better odds of winning than others based on their talent level.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 2, 2013 9:29am
Con_Alma;1511216 wrote:Every team in the playoffs has a "chance"....some have better odds of winning than others based on their talent level.
Ok Con_Alma...
Do you have Aspergers?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 9:32am
Nope.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 2, 2013 9:35am
Kasich called the Reds before last nights game. Somebody steal this gas bag's cell phone before tonight's game.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 2, 2013 9:49am
The Rays also have a pretty average lineup outside of Longoria.like_that;1511213 wrote:As long as your pitching is hot, you have a chance. IMO the Giants outside of Buster Posey have a pretty average lineup and they have now own 2 titles with that lineup.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 2, 2013 10:41am
Gameday... Let;s go Tribe!!
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Oct 2, 2013 10:44am
I guess we have to fund our free agent spending somehow?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--baseball%E2%80%99s-most-and-least-expensive-playoff-tickets-221043929.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--baseball%E2%80%99s-most-and-least-expensive-playoff-tickets-221043929.html
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 10:48am
"...Tickets for a Cleveland Indians game during the Division Series cost nearly 700 percent more than the regular season. ..."Dr. KnOiTaLL;1511267 wrote:I guess we have to fund our free agent spending somehow?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--baseball%E2%80%99s-most-and-least-expensive-playoff-tickets-221043929.html
I think that's a product of the Indians setting regular season prices while MLB setting playoff ticket process.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 2, 2013 11:05am
Yeah, exactly. Say what you want about the organization, but when it came to "bang for your buck", they went out of their way to try to get people in the park.Con_Alma;1511268 wrote:"...Tickets for a Cleveland Indians game during the Division Series cost nearly 700 percent more than the regular season. ..."
I think that's a product of the Indians setting regular season prices while MLB setting playoff ticket process.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 11:07am
I would agree with that.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Oct 2, 2013 11:17am
I don't disagree with this at all. Please don't see my post as bashing the organization. I love the tribe, the Browns, and the Cavs. I always have, and I always will. I was simply reading on Yahoo! and thought that the article was interesting and that you guys might enjoy it.wes_mantooth;1511275 wrote:Yeah, exactly. Say what you want about the organization, but when it came to "bang for your buck", they went out of their way to try to get people in the park.
Unfortunately, due to the price increase, I will not be able to attend any playoff games this year.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 2, 2013 11:20am
I wasn't seeing it as that. I think a lot of people don't realize that the MLB sets the pricing in the postseason. And honestly, paying 105 bucks for two shitty upper seats had me really considering flipping them and watching from home.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1511286 wrote:I don't disagree with this at all. Please don't see my post as bashing the organization. I love the tribe, the Browns, and the Cavs. I always have, and I always will. I was simply reading on Yahoo! and thought that the article was interesting and that you guys might enjoy it.
Unfortunately, due to the price increase, I will not be able to attend any playoff games this year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 2, 2013 11:26am
A little surprised that Chris Perez is on the roster for tonights game....
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 2, 2013 11:40am
I dont think this team is average. They arent loaded by any means. But
Bourn is above average CF and leadoff man
Swisher is average 1B
Kipnis is an AS 2B. Easily above average and probably one of the top 3 2B in baseball
Santana is an average DH/C. Depending on position, his offense takes him to above average.
Raburn is tough to call cause he doesnt play every day
Gomes is above average C
Brantley is a well above average LF. Probably the second closest thing to a star as we have to Kip. I would say he should win the GG
Asdrubal below average SS
Aviles/Chisenhall are both below average 3B
Stubbs is a below average RF
Starting pitching is WAY above average as is the pen. We have a top 5 rotation and without looking at numbers, Id say a top 10 pen with our main guys being a little better than that.
Bourn is above average CF and leadoff man
Swisher is average 1B
Kipnis is an AS 2B. Easily above average and probably one of the top 3 2B in baseball
Santana is an average DH/C. Depending on position, his offense takes him to above average.
Raburn is tough to call cause he doesnt play every day
Gomes is above average C
Brantley is a well above average LF. Probably the second closest thing to a star as we have to Kip. I would say he should win the GG
Asdrubal below average SS
Aviles/Chisenhall are both below average 3B
Stubbs is a below average RF
Starting pitching is WAY above average as is the pen. We have a top 5 rotation and without looking at numbers, Id say a top 10 pen with our main guys being a little better than that.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 2, 2013 12:23pm
agreed. Average teams go .500, not win 92 games.Laley23;1511303 wrote:I dont think this team is average. They arent loaded by any means. But
Bourn is above average CF and leadoff man
Swisher is average 1B
Kipnis is an AS 2B. Easily above average and probably one of the top 3 2B in baseball
Santana is an average DH/C. Depending on position, his offense takes him to above average.
Raburn is tough to call cause he doesnt play every day
Gomes is above average C
Brantley is a well above average LF. Probably the second closest thing to a star as we have to Kip. I would say he should win the GG
Asdrubal below average SS
Aviles/Chisenhall are both below average 3B
Stubbs is a below average RF
Starting pitching is WAY above average as is the pen. We have a top 5 rotation and without looking at numbers, Id say a top 10 pen with our main guys being a little better than that.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 2, 2013 12:29pm
Collectively the team clearly isn't average. That's all that really matters I guess. It is the total team performance that gets them into the playoffs. Consider that if they lose only 10 games more than they did they would be at .500. 10 games is a lot....the exact amount of their winning streak to end the season.
Thank God their impressive run in September has put them in position to let their pitching carry them.
Thank God their impressive run in September has put them in position to let their pitching carry them.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Oct 2, 2013 12:49pm
This is the longest day ever..
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 2, 2013 12:50pm
Leaving work now....picking up the kid...and off to Cleveland! Amazing day ahead!