Tribe vs. Rays (Series Thread)

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Oct 1, 2013 9:46pm
BTW, if the reds don't pull this game out, who do you say won the Choo trade after one season?
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Oct 1, 2013 10:01pm
like_that;1510980 wrote:BTW, if the reds don't pull this game out, who do you say won the Choo trade after one season?
I had no issue with choo being gone. He was ok, but for some reason I didn't give a shit
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Oct 1, 2013 10:03pm
wes_mantooth;1511007 wrote:I had no issue with choo being gone. He was ok, but for some reason I didn't give a shit

I didn't either, because he was playing like shit for the tribe. Seemed like he could never shake off the DUI saga.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:16pm
like_that;1510980 wrote:BTW, if the reds don't pull this game out, who do you say won the Choo trade after one season?
Even. Reds were ready to make a WS run and he fit the exact position needed. OF 5-tool player. Tribe was more in rebuild, not gonna re-sign him mode. As it turns out, we werent in rebuild, but with Choo on this team we dont sniff the playoffs because the haul we got back was amazing.
wes_mantooth;1511007 wrote:I had no issue with choo being gone. He was ok, but for some reason I didn't give a shit
As above, we got a shit ton for him. If it had been a bad trade, I wouldve been upset. But when we got as much back as we did, I was ecstatic. We fucked Arizona over bigtime.

Not sure we make the playoffs without Shaw and Albers in the bullpen, especially Shaw. Fucking stud in September (and all year) when we needed every single outing of his to be awesome.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:36pm
like_that;1510980 wrote:BTW, if the reds don't pull this game out, who do you say won the Choo trade after one season?

I don't care who won or lost on that trade...the Tribe had a hell of a turnaround season. Even if the Reds take an early exit and the Tribe goes deep, I don't feel the need to rub anything in, although I'm not sure Tribe fans would have received the same courtesy if tables were reversed. The only thing that matters is that the Indians were much improved, even without Choo who would be gone after this year anyway. Drew Stubbs was productive at times even if not spectacular, we got some good relievers out of the deal, and we still have a highly rated pitching prospect. When all is said and done...after 162 games, the Tribe is one of the best teams in the American league, instead of one of the worst.

I can't say that I've heard anyone , on any Tribe thread this year say that they missed Choo.....never...not once.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:55pm
Numbers vs. Cobb

Bourn .143 1/7
Brantley .000 0/5
Cabrera .250 2/8
Chiz .333 1/3
Kip .167 1/6
Santana .429 3/7
Swish .300 3/10
Raburn .375 3/8

Hopefully Raburn is in there even though its a righty/righty match-up. 3/8 is a large enough sample size for me!
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Oct 1, 2013 11:08pm
Good Luck tomorrow to the Indians.....should be a very good game. I think the winner of this game gives Boston fits, or at least I hope.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:30pm
I don't think I'm ever gonna fall asleep tonight. Let's go Tribe.
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Oct 1, 2013 11:37pm
GOONx19;1511104 wrote:I don't think I'm ever gonna fall asleep tonight. Let's go Tribe.
Im making myself get up early and go to work out and run some errands. Otherwise, it will be the most unproductive day in a LONG time for me lol.

So pumped I have work at 2:30, so I will (probably) be done by gametime!
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Oct 1, 2013 11:44pm
Laley23;1511062 wrote: Hopefully Raburn is in there even though its a righty/righty match-up. 3/8 is a large enough sample size for me!
Raburn, Aviles, Gomes, all have to be starting tomorrow. HAVE TO
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Oct 1, 2013 11:57pm
iclfan2;1511110 wrote:Raburn, Aviles, Gomes, all have to be starting tomorrow. HAVE TO
Aviles is like 0/9. Whoever Tweeted earlier forgot his numbers vs. Cobb. I wont be upset either way with him. Gomes and Raburn have to be in there though.

Id go:
Bourn - CF
Swisher - 1B
Kipnis - 2B
Santana - DH
Brantley - LF
Raburn - RF
Cabrera - SS
Gomes - C
Chisenhall - 3B

Giambi pitch hits anytime after the 5th inning if we have guys on base for Chizenhall and Stubbs pinch runs for anyone not fast if we are losing in the 7/8/9
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Oct 1, 2013 11:58pm
Ugh. Now that I look, I really dont want Chiz playing. Aviles at 3B is what I would do.
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Oct 2, 2013 12:00am
Bold move to go with 2 right fielders and no 3rd baseman.
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Footwedge
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Oct 2, 2013 12:02am
iclfan2;1511110 wrote:Raburn, Aviles, Gomes, all have to be starting tomorrow. HAVE TO
Raburn wont play tomorrow. Gomes hits eighth and Aviles bats ninth. The rest of the line up will be lefties.

Bourn (CF), Swisher (RF), Kipness (2B), Santana (1B), Brantley (LF), Cabrerra (SS), Giambi (DH), Gomes (C), Aviles (3B).

Cobb is about 30 points worse (BA) against lefties this year,
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Oct 2, 2013 12:11am
I dont like not having Giambi to pinch hit late in the game, in a 1 and done format. Id rather go with a righty and be able to use him when you want to use him...even if its in the 5th inning or something.
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Oct 2, 2013 12:58am
Verse righties overall:

Raburn is .243
Aviles is .269
Gomes is .275
Chisenhall is .241
Giambi is .191
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Oct 2, 2013 2:56am
Sweep Boston, that is all.
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Oct 2, 2013 6:41am
Game day!!! Leaving work early today to take it all in! Go Tribe!
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Oct 2, 2013 7:48am
....agree with keeping Giambi on the bench for PHing. Batting average is .191...and if he gets on via a single, he'll be clogging up the basepaths. You want to be able to insert him at any given time when a big hit could break open/win a ballgame.
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Oct 2, 2013 7:49am
Footwedge;1510783 wrote:Et tu Brute.... Speaking of the Breowns, Colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Hoyer. Care to explain how he can be so successful?
LOL...no he doesn't but no need to turn this into a Browns thread/pissing match. GO TRIBE !!!
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Oct 2, 2013 7:54am
Ironman92;1511070 wrote:Good Luck tomorrow to the Indians.....should be a very good game. I think the winner of this game gives Boston fits, or at least I hope.
I keep day dreaming that francona gets pay back on his old team. Would be awesome. Don't want to get ahead of myself though. Gotta get this one tonight!
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Oct 2, 2013 8:12am
I'll be extremely disappointed if I see Giambi starting in a one game playoff.
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Oct 2, 2013 8:21am
#1DBag;1511150 wrote:Sweep Boston, that is all.
Agreed. Hopefully whoever wins this game will get to the ALCS.
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Oct 2, 2013 8:54am
Footwedge;1510781 wrote:Well Con, when are you gonna admit you were wrong? All year you've chided how average this team is. 92 wins says you are wrong...wrong...wrong. Course I said the same thing a month ago.
All year I have said this team has average talent. I still say that's the case. No superstars. Average individuals. I am impressed with the job Francona has done.

What I was wrong about was their ability to win the number of games they have. I don't believe I am wrong about their talent level.

They have performed incredibly in September...a great time to get hot. Lets hope it continues.
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Oct 2, 2013 8:55am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1510642 wrote:Remember when you all were ticked because we traded Alex White and Drew Pomeranz for Ubaldo? And then you all tooted your own horns when Ubaldo was struggling, remember that? It's been a long bumpy road, but glad Ubaldo is on our side. Meanwhile, White has made his way to Houston and Pomeranz is still non-existant.
"You all"?

You won't find a post with me being ticked about that trade at all.