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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 24, 2013 10:47am
May have been one of the worst calls I have seen. The fielder had extremely poor fundamentals as his throwing hand was way down by his waist leaving the ump really with no other call other than safe, but the fucker blew it anyways. I could see if his hand was right by the glove to make it look much different but man it wasnt.Ironman92;1522754 wrote:That call was historically bad.....
Umps meeting to decide how the fuck to change it without Matheny going all George Brett pine tar on them.
It was one of those "automatic" calls like 3-0 count or the area play on a double play. He pretty much predertimed what he was gonna call.
If I talk to Jim Joyce next year I will have to ask him what Matheny was saying. You could see him saying "mike, mike...".
Glad they got it right though, and Matheny had no other option but go out and bitch even though it was the right call.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 24, 2013 10:52am
Pick6;1523031 wrote:the cardinals manager might be the biggest bitch i have ever seen. QQ about a call that couldnt be more obvious
I would expect any manager to go out and argue a play like that where they change a call like they did. If the umpire 10 feet away in the perfect position cannot make the right call, then how can the other umps out of position and further away do so?
It had more to do with that, defending his team, and setting the tone. You don twant a manager to idly sit by and not argue shit like this.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 24, 2013 11:19am
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 24, 2013 2:50pm
Video replay needs to be added immediately for all calls. We cannot have bad calls like this deciding games
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 24, 2013 3:09pm
I wouldnt go that far. 3.5 hour game would last close to 5 hours.Classyposter58;1523377 wrote:Video replay needs to be added immediately for all calls. We cannot have bad calls like this deciding games
Next year they are adding more replay in, and maybe a challenge system.
Have to wonder about the 'area' play on double plays at second base...
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 8:39pm
Nice job by James Taylor starting the National Anthem...
"God Bless America, Oh Say can you see"
"God Bless America, Oh Say can you see"
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 9:04pm
Didn't need it but Shane Victorino's hustle was refreshing to see on what would've been an inside the park HR had Ellsbury ran into the wall.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Oct 24, 2013 9:06pm
That "jump" Pedroia does is stupid and doesn't help him anymore than the creep-steps that every baseball player takes. It almost made him too late.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 9:48pm
You're not TimGOONx19;1523554 wrote:That "jump" Pedroia does is stupid and doesn't help him anymore than the creep-steps that every baseball player takes. It almost made him too late.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Oct 24, 2013 9:53pm
Papi is so clutch.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 10:00pm
Fenway is so effin shallow in LFgorocks99;1523574 wrote:Papi is so clutch.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 10:12pm
Lackey gets pulled after 6 1/3 and almost willingly
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 10:15pm
Potentially huge double steal
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Oct 24, 2013 10:18pm
Well that's a huge fuck up
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 24, 2013 10:18pm
Yeah....that may end up as one of the biggest double steals ever
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Oct 24, 2013 10:24pm
Defensive lapses big keys in both games. I know with the Beltran hit, it is a moot point, but shouldn't the bad throw into the left field seats allowed the 4th run to score?
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Oct 24, 2013 10:59pm
Big job by Martinez. Rosenthal will bring his flame-thrower arm in the ninth.
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Oct 24, 2013 11:09pm
Cards got what they wanted, a split in Boston. Rosenthal made pretty "fast" work of the Bosox in the ninth.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 24, 2013 11:22pm
25 second pitch clockthavoice;1523390 wrote:I wouldnt go that far. 3.5 hour game would last close to 5 hours.
Next year they are adding more replay in, and maybe a challenge system.
Have to wonder about the 'area' play on double plays at second base...
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 25, 2013 10:10am
"I would expect any manager to go out and argue a play like that where they change a call like they did. If the umpire 10 feet away in the perfect position cannot make the right call, then how can the other umps out of position and further away do so?"
maybe because they aren't incompetent? I don't care about either team, or MLB much in general but that was the worst call I've seen in any sport in some time.
maybe because they aren't incompetent? I don't care about either team, or MLB much in general but that was the worst call I've seen in any sport in some time.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 25, 2013 10:34am
Do you know how to use the quote feature?Manhattan Buckeye;1523722 wrote:"I would expect any manager to go out and argue a play like that where they change a call like they did. If the umpire 10 feet away in the perfect position cannot make the right call, then how can the other umps out of position and further away do so?"
maybe because they aren't incompetent? I don't care about either team, or MLB much in general but that was the worst call I've seen in any sport in some time.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Oct 25, 2013 12:44pm
Yes, when the occasion calls for it.like_that;1523727 wrote:Do you know how to use the quote feature?
Just like all 647 people that actually watched a boring MLB game should be upset that an umpire couldn't make the correct call that a t-ball umpire would make.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 25, 2013 6:34pm
It is astonishing to see how big of an ego a lot of these older guys have. As a newer football ref whenever I see an obvious call and the old fuck completely misses it, like one where this guy at the R position was watching towards the sideline with me and the QB was just smoked a few seconds after throwing it. Well after the series he was telling me how I need to be more downfield cause I was "out of position", yet the receiver was only 5 yards downfield running on a short corner route and I was actually a couple yards downfield of him. Lol I know it's HS football but what I'm trying to say is it seems obvious that there are quite a few veterans who truly believe they can do no wrongManhattan Buckeye;1523793 wrote:Yes, when the occasion calls for it.
Just like all 647 people that actually watched a boring MLB game should be upset that an umpire couldn't make the correct call that a t-ball umpire would make.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 25, 2013 8:39pm
You quoted someone's post, the occasion called for it.Manhattan Buckeye;1523793 wrote:Yes, when the occasion calls for it.
Just like all 647 people that actually watched a boring MLB game should be upset that an umpire couldn't make the correct call that a t-ball umpire would make.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 26, 2013 11:19pm
What a play by Wong